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.224 Valkyrie
- Thread starter GeauxLSU
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I am amazed that a 1% error in range estimation (1000 yards vs. 1,010 yds) means 15” more bullet drop with the .223, and still 9” more drop with the .224 Valkyrie.
So being 99% accurate is NOT good enough at those ranges!
So being 99% accurate is NOT good enough at those ranges!
Not if you want to hit a 15" target
Could you please run numbers using the Hornaday black 6.5 grendel 123g sst.the big difference is going to be how many manufacturers get behind this caliber. The big plus so far is Federal making ammo/brass for the round. In the past, that was the downfall of most of the "wildcat" calibers, not having factory ammo or brass with the proper headstamp. I shoot a variety of calibers and usually want to have the proper headstamp for each round/rifle, so there's no confusion. Sure you can convert 556 into 300BO but unless I make changes I'd rather just have dedicated brass for each platform. Main reason I never went to K Hornet, 280 AI, etc. If I convert one of my rifles in that chamber I'd have to convert all of them, at least with my thinking.
Federal has already stepped up to the plate for this, so that's a huge step. the concept is sound, and with the right backing and marketing, this could be a good round for those that are looking for specific needs. IMHO if you are hunting with an AR15, the 6.8 is hard to beat with the right combination of bullet and powder but typically at closer ranges. If you plan to shoot subsonic and have a can, the 300BO is a good round. If you want a bit more of a longer range AR15 or plan to run PRS but don't want to move to the AR10 platform, this would be a great option.
This could be a boon for 6.8SPC shooters, and possibly shed more light on a great caliber. In the past the fact that you needed new mags and bolt was too much of a stretch for some, hence the 300AAC BO brought to life (and it's much more oriented towards subsonic use). I'm just hoping that it means there might be some more affordable options for 6.8SPC magazines in the future. I have a couple of PRI and Barrett mags but for $40-60 each, it would be nice to see Magpul or someone come out with a more reasonable mag that allows for longer OAL cartridges (they make a 6.8mag currently but it is proprietary for the LWRCi Six8 lowers). For me, I already have a 6.8 barrel and bolt setup, so just get a second upper with a new 224V barrel and I'm set. I even have brass already but would obviously like to keep the 6.8 and 224V brass with unique headstamps.
As someone mentioned, I would guess that they are going after the success of the Creedmore rounds from Hornady. Out of the box Sub MOA performance and 308 pattern rifles. take that same bump (308 -> 6.5C = 6.8SPC -> 224V) but in the smaller platform that has WAY more people running around with them.
i'll be waiting to see how it pans out...
2580 fps
. 252 sd
. 506 bc(g1)
Thanks
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Never mind, I see now this came from Federal's website. That explains the 130 gr 6.5 grendel. Not the more optimal 123gr. When I run the 123 through strelok I get 96.5 drift 399.2 drop for a 100yd zero on a standard day.
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Which means in a real world scenario that doesn't involve paper/steel, the 6.5G will be the better choice due to the higher sectional density and larger diameter.
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yeah but his grendel numbers are coming from a 24" barrel as per the specs on Midway's page. the numbers from the federal are coming from an 20 inch AR. Compare apples to apples. MPA is getting 3000 fps out of 24 bolt guns.
out of bulletflight:
123 going 2400 has a 165.5" drift and 485.06 drop.
123 going 2450 107.5 drift and 462.69 drop 359 fpe
out of bulletflight:
123 going 2400 has a 165.5" drift and 485.06 drop.
123 going 2450 107.5 drift and 462.69 drop 359 fpe
Jim numbers for the 90 grain going 2668 out of a 20 inch: 82.4 drift, 351.74 drop. 366 FPE
