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27 C.F.R. 178.11 College student wanting to buy handgun

Thread in 'Law & Order' started by chinamandan, Oct 17, 2018.

  1. chinamandan

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    Im trying to help out a Life U. student out of Florida find a gun shop that may be able to help him out. His understanding is he can buy one in state even though he has a Florida ID with some old ATF decisions/opinions (we love their opinions!). I told him whether or not this is legal, I can't think of a local shop that is willing to sell one in fear of making a mistake. Usually it's an out of state serviceman/servicewoman that has orders but I have not seen this.

    Does anyone know what he is talking about?

    Does anyone know where he can get what he wants if it's legal?

    Thanks in advance to any helpful input on this!
     
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    ATF Rul. 80
    -21
    [Status of ruling:
    Active]
    The Bureau
    has been asked to determine the State of residence of out
    -of-State college students
    for purposes of the Gun Control Act of 1968. “
    State of residence
    ” is defined by
    regulation in 27
    C. F.R. 178.11 as the
    State in which an individual regularly
    resides or ma
    intains a home.
    The
    regulation also provides an example
    of an individual who maintains a
    home in State X and a
    home in State
    Y. The individual regularly resides in
    State X except for the summer
    months and
    in State Y for the summer
    months of the year.
    Th
    e regulation
    states that during the time the
    individual
    actually resides in State X he is a
    resident of State X, and during the
    time he actually
    resides in State Y he
    is a resident of State Y.
    Applying the above example to out
    -of
    - State college students
    it is
    held
    , that during the time the
    students actually
    reside in a college dormitory or
    at an off
    -campus location they are
    considered
    residents of the State
    where the dormitory or off
    -campus
    home is located.
    During the time out
    -
    of-State college students
    actually
    reside in their home State they are
    considered residents of their
    home
    State.
     
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    Sorry about the formatting.

    All in all, it would be easier to buy in Florida if he still has an address and drivers license in Florida.
     
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    He can't have two driver's licenses at one time, so the bother may be more than it's worth, depending on his intention to return to FL.
     
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    Even if he finds someone to sell to him, would he not be in violation if his intentions were to take said firearm home to diff state?
     
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    Once he has legally purchased it, he can take it wherever he wants, subject to state law.
     
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    The problem for the student in question is that if he eligible for a Ga state ID, he would be REQUIRED to get a Ga Drivers license, and register his car in GA. The ID card is primarily for people who don't drive. If he doesn't have a car in Georgia, and doesn't drive in GA, then the ID card could work, if the FFL will accept it.
     
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    https://www.atf.gov/file/55496/download

    Rental agreement or letter showing GA Residency, a State Issued ID (with pic) from home state, and a Student ID from Life, and personally, I would do a FTF private sale to such a person.

    Seems enough to establish current residency, which makes him, if he is a non felon, over 18, perfectly legal to sell to as just another State of GA resident.
     
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