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365 hp......

I checked out the Lexus LC500h before Christmas. It's $100K, so out of my range, but what a beautiful car! Top to bottom, front to back.

468hp 5.0 V8 <4.5 sec 0-60, 10 speed automatic.
 
I guess we all have different definitions of sports sedan vs muscle car vs luxury tourer.
Very few things mentioned I'd define as a sports sedan and I suspect none at this power : price ratio.
I've owned one BMW. Never again. Very impressed with the Acuras I've driven. After driving a Genesis I'd most certainly go look at this Kia if in the market.
 
View attachment 1449152 Driving one of those cars is like dating a fat gal, it's fun until your friends find out!
Always remember there is no replacement for displacement. American made muscle for me! V-8 all the way. I get 460hp from my 6.2L LT-1 powered Vette without any power adders.

There is absolutely a replacement for displacement. WEIGHT.

If you took the engine out of my bike and put it in a car it would be worthless-ish.
I am sitting at 420+/-lbs @ 213rwhp/90 ft.lb and its scary, put that in a car and it would be less than exciting.
 

Problem is not many people want to pay that kind of money for a ferd

Folks spending that kinda dough want more status than you get with a ford

Friend of mine had a twin turbo AWD Ford Flex station wagon

OMG was that thing a blast to drive

Cost more than a BMW though
 
Problem is not many people want to pay that kind of money for a ferd

Folks spending that kinda dough want more status than you get with a ford

Friend of mine had a twin turbo AWD Ford Flex station wagon

OMG was that thing a blast to drive

Cost more than a BMW though
I agree, but I'm surprised at the number of these cars that I see on the road.
 
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