Accurate enough 308

[cmshoot]

I've only had 1 of the FN FNAR's show up for a course and it didn't do very well. I shot it myself and I didn't do very well. I did not attempt to diagnose it, so it could have been the rifle, ammo, scope, etc.

Mags are more expensive than the SCAR17. Trigger is blech and I'm not sure what the upgrade is. They are relatively inexpensive, though. I've seen them as cheap as under $600 NIB on GB. If it would shoot 1-1.5MOA with halfway decent ammo, it would be worth that price as a knockaround and GP rifle.

It would do well in the Guerrilla Sniper course that I offer.

Anyone here have an FN FNAR that can comment on their accuracy at distances exceeding 600yds?

 

[above_all]

I picked up a Ruger SR-762 during a Cabela's Friends & Family sale last year. It's a later serial number model with Ruger's Elite 452, 4.5 lb two stage trigger; Magpul furniture and CHF chrome lined barrel. The two stage piston rifle has a four way regulator to adjust the gas pressure to your needs. It comes with Ruger folding BUIS, three PMAGs and case.

More rifle than I'll ever need, but its run great for me. Just needed to change out butt-ugly Ruger flash hider.

http://www.ruger-firearms.com/products/sr762/models.html

 

[BamaBrad]

My AR-308 is a DPMS GII Recon. I was thinking the same as you as wanting a semiauto 308. Did a lot of research and after reading what DPMS was doing to their GII series rifles I kept going back to them. I finally settled on the Recon and located one and am extremely pleased with it. Super accurate especially with 168gr Sierra bullets.

 

[cmshoot]

My AR-308 is a DPMS GII Recon. I was thinking the same as you as wanting a semiauto 308. Did a lot of research and after reading what DPMS was doing to their GII series rifles I kept going back to them. I finally settled on the Recon and located one and am extremely pleased with it. Super accurate especially with 168gr Sierra bullets.

Have you tried it with any 175grn or 178grn bullets?

 

[BamaBrad]

Have you tried it with any 175grn or 178grn bullets?

No I sure haven't. Sounds like I need to?

 

[cmshoot]

No I sure haven't. Sounds like I need to?

Not necessarily, I'm just curious. Usually, the heavier bullets work better at distances in excess of 600yds. Some rifles will run 168's to 1,000yds with stability, some won't.

I've seen some few instances where 168's wouldn't do the job. In all the cases I've seen, they went squirrelly somewhere between 800 and 1,000yds. Never seen it happen with 175's or 178's.

 

[BamaBrad]

Interesting, I don't have anywhere to shoot that far but I follow your class dates and would love to make one of your rifle classes and bring this rifle and some of the 168gr and the 175 or 178gr.

 

[cmshoot]

Interesting, I don't have anywhere to shoot that far but I follow your class dates and would love to make one of your rifle classes and bring this rifle and some of the 168gr and the 175 or 178gr.

I also host a shoot on a 2500yd range in SW GA twice a year. Not a class, so perfect time to experiment with different loads/bullets/gear, etc.

 

[GAgunLAWbooklet]

I have an M1A.
I like it, but I think I'd like an AR-10, too.

I've used the CETME and liked those, for open-sighted shooting out to 200 yards. I've never shot a CETME or the H&K variant with optics.

What is your definition of "reach out" distance?
A factory M1A should be good for 2 m.o.a. right out of the box, with decent ammo.
That would have you hitting man-sized targets at 1000 yards, in theory, if everything else were perfect as to your aim and steady hold. 2 m.o.a. will bag a deer at 400 yards. Is that far enough? That's 4X farther than the distance at which the "average" deer is killed.

My M1A wears a 4X scope during deer season, and gets fed some ordinary (not super-charged or extra hot) .308 soft-point hunting ammo.

 

[GAgunLAWbooklet]

No I sure haven't. Sounds like I need to?

You never know what will work best.
Palma rifle matches require 155 gr. bullets, shot at 1000 yards, from .308 bolt guns with iron sights.
The best shooters' guns at such matches will do 10 shot groups the size of a grapefruit that far out.
With 155 gr. bullets. Half M.O.A. at the full distance.
Even though these "light" bullets go subsonic around 700-750 yards. They still hit the 10-ring at 1000 yards.

But, other guns, with other twist rates, may like heavier slugs.
Doping the wind is a factor, too. It's better to have a 1.5" m.o.a. group well-centered over the target than to have a .75 minute group that keeps hitting to the right because the wind's blowing your bullets more than you expected.