Historically, ODT lowers have violated every AR design I refuse to own except the Chicken Lower...which I love and own 3 of. I will never own an AR with a picture of a deer on it. It's not a deer rifle (in my opinion anyway). I will never own an AR with a picture of another AR on it. That's just redundant and stupid. I don't have a picture of another truck airbrushed on my truck either. I also do not want a zombie on my rifle. That fad is tired and needs to go away...way away. Then came the chicken. It allowed me to build an old school 20 inch Vietnam era A1 type rifle I call "the big chicken" complete with original surplus Colt A1 stock, grip, triangle hand guard and 3 prong flash hider on a Colt A1 upper receiver and barrel. It allowed me to build a smaller carbine A2 style rifle I call "chicken little" (I didn't need nor did I want another AR pistol or that designation would have gone there). And, it allowed me to build an intermittently operative 7.62x39 I refer to as "chicken s***"....Though the "Chicken S***" upper is now sitting on a spikes lower awaiting parts that may or may not help it cycle properly. So, that 3rd chicken lower is now running as an M4 clone so all my chickens are in a row (I don't have any ducks).