Arms trade treaty....

[FrogMan]

no treaty can override the constitution so its mostly meaningless

 

[BIGLEW]

You can accuse me of being overly optimistic...but I doubt the "real" vote was that close. There are undoubtedly some of those 46 who genuinely support the treat, but I would doubt that there was a single senator from either side who thought it would actually pass. I would guess that the majority of those 46 were pandering to their base, knowing it would never happen. If they actually thought they might be held accountable for their vote, it would have gone down in spectacular fashion.

When you take the enormity of the issue in to account that is a razor thin margin of victory...

I can agree with both these statements. The first thought that entered my mind was "what would have been the results of this exact vote 40 years ago?" I think it would have been more one sided back then. So with it getting closer with time, how much time do we have until the results are opposite?

 

[Tylerls1]

I can agree with both these statements. The first thought that entered my mind was "what would have been the results of this exact vote 40 years ago?" I think it would have been more one sided back then. So with it getting closer with time, how much time do we have until the results are opposite?

Not much longer now, more people growing up in big cities now.

 

[captdave77]

Still bad but doesn't it take 60 senators/traitors to ratify a treaty?

Two thirds of the senators present

 

[Ballplayer]

Can someone explain in layman terms what ratifying this treaty would do for America?

The world should know the U.S government doesn't honor treaties it signs, never has and never will, it breaks them anytime it wants or when the need arises, just ask the American Indians how many treaties the government broke to them, yet we wonder why the rest of the world despise us. Rejoice, the constitution is not a treaty, which is good for us, the American citizens or else we'd be screwed.

 

[cobiker]

Can someone explain in layman terms what ratifying this treaty would do for America?

Basically a treaty supercedes the Constitution. It would put the UN in charge of our gun laws.

 

[FrogMan]

Basically a treaty supercedes the Constitution. It would put the UN in charge of our gun laws.

Im pretty sure your wrong on that one, nothing supersedes the constitution!

 

[captdave77]

Basically a treaty supercedes the Constitution. It would put the UN in charge of our gun laws.

 

[Hasselhoss]

Basically a treaty supercedes the Constitution. It would put the UN in charge of our gun laws.

http://www.sweetliberty.org/issues/staterights/treaties.htm

 

[captdave77]

http://www.sweetliberty.org/issues/staterights/treaties.htm

That's what the want you to think.

Move this to Area 51.