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Army Should Have Gone With Glock....

IIRC it was only Sig, FN, and Beretta who actually presented truly modular handguns and Glock tried to sue their way into the contract. Must've had consultants from Boeing helping them. ;)

Beretta M9A3
Beretta APX
FN 509
Glock
Sphinx SDP Compact
SIG

I didn’t include companies like S&W and Detonics/STI that initially submitted an entry and then withdrew.
 
Beretta M9A3
Beretta APX
FN 509
Glock
Sphinx SDP Compact
SIG

I didn’t include companies like S&W and Detonics/STI that initially submitted an entry and then withdrew.

I do remember that Beretta specifically did not include the M9A3 because the APX was their submission based on the requirements. The article I read could be wrong though.
 
I do remember that Beretta specifically did not include the M9A3 because the APX was their submission based on the requirements. The article I read could be wrong though.

Since it was already under contract, Beretta’s first bid was the M9A3 as a parts-compatible improvement on the existing M9, making it a low-cost option. This was rejected seemingly out of hand. While the solicitation didn’t specify against a double-action/single-action (DA/SA) option, language seemed to imply that an always-consistent trigger was preferred, provided it wasn’t a single action. Interestingly, Beretta’s DA/SA design providing a “double-strike” capability on misfired ammunition was a selection point over the Glock 17 in 1985, yet it may have hindered its re-adoption here. More damning was the lack of a compact version of the M9A3, as required, and not really having a modular design.
 
CZ created versions of its P-09 and P-07 for military testing. Based on the CZ series popular in Production/Stock practical competition, the CZ P-09 holds 19+1 rounds of 9mm ammo and features a double- action-only (DAO) trigger with a bobbed hammer. The more compact P-07 was also considered, and shooters could swap out both models’ backstraps. The designs featured manual safeties, but there is no indication these pistols had truly modular grips or frames. While not explicitly forbidden, the DAO trigger was certainly not an MHS requirement and not favored. In the end, CZ ended up choosing to not formally enter the XM17 MHS competition.

Nice, thanks for educating me. I have a P09 and it shoots like a laser, scorpion with KAK folder and blade. Would love to take some of your training but with one leg and Medicare it won't be soon.

Thank you sir!
 
Since it was already under contract, Beretta’s first bid was the M9A3 as a parts-compatible improvement on the existing M9, making it a low-cost option. This was rejected seemingly out of hand. While the solicitation didn’t specify against a double-action/single-action (DA/SA) option, language seemed to imply that an always-consistent trigger was preferred, provided it wasn’t a single action. Interestingly, Beretta’s DA/SA design providing a “double-strike” capability on misfired ammunition was a selection point over the Glock 17 in 1985, yet it may have hindered its re-adoption here. More damning was the lack of a compact version of the M9A3, as required, and not really having a modular design.
Thanks for the clarification. :)
 
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