ATF "laws"

[FreedomUSMC]

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In Under 48 Hours, VAWA Gun Control Was Rammed Through Congress Congress just passed a law to deputize your local police as ATF agents and to fund criminal investigations into mistaken NICS denials of law-abiding citizens. Biden is set to sign the law before midnight. We need you to take action...

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[poopdaddy]

Silencers are actually much easier to buy in many countries with strict gun control. Yet here we have to jump through hoops because of the gangsters of the 1920's and 1930's and the misunderstanding of what they actually do. It's ignorance that is keeping them a Class III item.

sorry
wrong....people like to think it was gangsters,but it was hunters. during the great depression they d not want people poaching deer and cows for food. but once they got their hands on it, they wont let go...

 

[poopdaddy]

If this is about ATF cracking down on these 95% complete silencer kits falsely sold as "solvent traps" or some other BS... yes ATF has been taking legal action against the distributors and manufacturers of these products. Been doing it for a few years at least since 2018.

When ATF's crackdown is more fully implemented and widely known in the industry, it will come to the point that manufactures and distributors will not be in the business of selling silencer kits and silencer parts kits anymore. That will mean if you want to do a Form 1 build of your own silencer, you will actually have to start with raw material and do all the metal work yourself.

I don't like it, but ATF's position is consistent with the laws actually passed by Congress and it is a reasonable exercise of the rule-making authority delegated to them (because Congress doesn't know squat about guns or silencers but ATF is an agency with expertise.)

so buying parts that dont work as a suppressor,and them applying for the ransom required to build a suppressor is bad? i read they want you to send the pics of the parts you intend to use to make a suppressor along with your form 1 app. so they want you to give photographic evidence of intent to build before they will allow you to build?
bs

 

[FreedomUSMC]

so buying parts that dont work as a suppressor,and them applying for the ransom required to build a suppressor is bad? i read they want you to send the pics of the parts you intend to use to make a suppressor along with your form 1 app. so they want you to give photographic evidence of intent to build before they will allow you to build?
bs

Their submission process is asking you to incriminate yourself. They changed the rules so any part can be considered suppressor and you could face charges. So if you send pictures of the parts you have, you're actually in violation of the bs laws they've created. And it goes against what Form 1 says.

 

[baxterday]

sorry
wrong....people like to think it was gangsters,but it was hunters. during the great depression they d not want people poaching deer and cows for food. but once they got their hands on it, they wont let go...

That's a new one.

 

[FreedomUSMC]

sorry
wrong....people like to think it was gangsters,but it was hunters. during the great depression they d not want people poaching deer and cows for food. but once they got their hands on it, they wont let go...

Well done, Sir. Many people don't know that. It started with hunters, and then mobsters and hitmen took it too another level.

NFA enacted the $200 fee back then, which is the equivalent of $3000 now, so regular people couldn't afford them. But of course, mobsters did what they wanted.

 

[poopdaddy]

Well done, Sir. Many people don't know that. It started with hunters, and then mobsters and hitmen took it too another level.

NFA enacted the $200 fee back then, which is the equivalent of $3000 now, so regular people couldn't afford them. But of course, mobsters did what they wanted.

suffer if you must,just dont eat...

 

[poopdaddy]

That's a new one.

its sad.. look into it they feared that the peasants would eat of the king's game...

 

[GeorgiaShooter]

Since there are get away drivers in crimes. We need to ban mufflers on cars.

 

[gober13]

so buying parts that dont work as a suppressor,and them applying for the ransom required to build a suppressor is bad? i read they want you to send the pics of the parts you intend to use to make a suppressor along with your form 1 app. so they want you to give photographic evidence of intent to build before they will allow you to build?
bs

Just send a picture of a solid block of metal. Cant prove its not what you used or going to use