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they are a great value, I've had one, I wouldn't mind having another but I wouldn't spend the money on that for hi-point.I've always said the Hi point carbines were a great value...and that's pretty cool
This^^^
I was just about to ask " Aren't they ugly enough straight out of the box?" But I have a biased opinion. I hate bullpup rifles. The ONLY cool bullpup design is the AUG. And i will admit to liking Hi Point carbines. if you have a way to really secure them in your vehicle I think the C9 pistol and the 995 Carbine would make a good package to keep in the car. If they ever go to a double stack mag in the carbine it will be hard to beat.They finally found a way to make an ugly gun uglier.