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Buying a MG on form 4 out of state

Thread in 'Class III & NFA Discussion' started by Apollo, Nov 5, 2018.

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    What would be the easiest and fastest way to purchase a MG from a non FFL on a form 4 out of state? Do i have to wait for both form 4s to get back before possession

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    Others will jump on this later today with more details but in short, you have to involve a dealer in your (receiving) home State. And I think there is a cost involved to transfer to that dealer, and then again to you. It stays with the dealer while you wait on approval. If you are buying from an individual, usually this means you pay on transfer to the dealer.

    There are some Class 3 level dealers on here that will know exactly.
     
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    Yes i know where the MG would be going to be transferred too. My question is would the seller have to wait for the dealer to get the stamp back before he sends it? Would my FFL dealer be able to get the paperwork expedited like a form 3 somehow? Is there a way to do this without a 2 year wait basically...

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    I think the item gets transferred to your dealer on a form 3 and they will have you file the form 4 when they get the item
     
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    I was thinking form 3s were from dealer to dealer?

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    It will be two form 4s. Yes the seller will need to wait for the f4 to the dealer to be approved before sending to them. Good news is form 4s to dealers are much faster.
     
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    Ooh ok. I thought Form 3 was just transfer to a dealer.
     
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    Form 3s are only used with both parties are SOT paying dealers/manufacturers/importers.
    Form 5s are when ONE party is a government entity, deceased party, or when transferring items for repair.
    Form 4s for everything else.
     
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    What would be the legality of one adding me as a trustee of a NFA item, then a 5320 to get sent to me, then a form 4 to individual?

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    Are you trying to avoid paying a second tax? That is tax evasion in the eyes of the ATF.

    Unfortunately the two form 4s is just a harsh reality when buying out of state, non FFL owned items.
     
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