Buying guns across state line?????'s

[The Old Jaybird]

Well....according to all the ATF gibberish above, you ship it home to yourself and you are OK. At least that's what I got out of it.

Live in GA, go home to Ohio for Christmas, before you leave Ohio, you ship the gun to yourself at your home in GA. Easy peasy. Don't let your wife or kids open the package when it arrives.

 

[GeauxLSU]

Well....according to all the ATF gibberish above, you ship it home to yourself and you are OK. At least that's what I got out of it. Live in GA, go home to Ohio for Christmas, before you leave Ohio, you ship the gun to yourself at your home in GA. Easy peasy. .

Nope....

http://www.nssfblog.com/giving-a-firearm-as-a-gift-some-reminders-from-nssf/

 

[gh1950]

Meet at the nearest FFL in the purchasers state. Or have that person ship the gun to an FFL of your choosing in your state. Be sure to check what requirements the FFL wants from the shipper before it is shipped. (Copy of ID or what not)

No one has made it clear that there are a different set of rules for long guns and handguns.

First, you can buy a gun from someone out of state, Gunbroker proves that.

On long guns, if you are buying from a resident of another state, you have the choice of having the transfer done through a FFL in EITHER state. The seller can deliver his gun to an FFL in HIS state, and you can go to that FFL and complete the transfer. Or he can send it (or deliver it) to an FFL in YOUR state, and complete the transaction.

One item of bad advice that pops up occasionally is the assertion that the transfer has to be done FFL to FFL. Seems to mostly originate with FFLs that want the fees. That is absolutely not true. BUT an FFL may have a policy of only receiving guns from other FFL. You just have to check it out.

On handguns, the transfer has to be done in the state of residence of the purchaser by an FFL. It's that simple, although again there is no legal requirement that it be an FFL to FFL transfer.

The one kicker in this is that if you buy a long gun on another state, you are required to meet the state based purchase requirements of both your state and the state where the gun is located. This is the reason that some FFL won't handle transfers for person from states with which they are not familiar - the burden of seeing that all rules are followed falls on the FFL.

 

[BanjoJohn]

Pretty sure that's what I said.

But you have to explain these things in may different ways, in hopes of getting the message across to the masses. lol

So to speak, in so many words, in three different languages?

 

[November Sierra]

I can't tell but I hope it was a 'tongue in cheek' comment.

 

[BanjoJohn]

You expect them to click? Ain't nobody got time fo dat!

2. May I lawfully transfer a firearm to a friend who resides in a different State?
Under Federal law, an unlicensed individual is prohibited from transferring a firearm to an individual who does not reside in the State where the transferee resides. Generally, for a person to lawfully transfer a firearm to an unlicensed person who resides out of State, the firearm must be shipped to a Federal Firearms Licensee (FFL) within the recipient’s State of residence. He or she may then receive the firearm from the FFL upon completion of an ATF Form 4473 and a NICS background check. More information can be obtained on the ATF website at www.atf.gov and http://www.atf.gov/firearms/faq/unlicensed-persons.html. The GCA provides an exception from this prohibition for temporary loans or rentals of firearms for lawful sporting purposes. Thus, for example, a friend visiting you may borrow a firearm from you to go hunting. Another exception is provided for transfers of firearms to nonresidents to carry out a lawful bequest or acquisition by intestate succession. This exception would authorize the transfer of a firearm to a nonresident who inherits a firearm under the will of a decedent. See 18 U.S.C. 922(a)(5).

And now you want them to read .........and..........comprehend? Are you serious?

 

[ReservoirDawg10]

This is almost like asking facebook for advice.

 

[gh1950]

You expect them to click? Ain't nobody got time fo dat!

2. May I lawfully transfer a firearm to a friend who resides in a different State?
Under Federal law, an unlicensed individual is prohibited from transferring a firearm to an individual who does not reside in the State where the transferee resides. Generally, for a person to lawfully transfer a firearm to an unlicensed person who resides out of State, the firearm must be shipped to a Federal Firearms Licensee (FFL) within the recipient’s State of residence. He or she may then receive the firearm from the FFL upon completion of an ATF Form 4473 and a NICS background check. More information can be obtained on the ATF website at www.atf.gov and http://www.atf.gov/firearms/faq/unlicensed-persons.html. The GCA provides an exception from this prohibition for temporary loans or rentals of firearms for lawful sporting purposes. Thus, for example, a friend visiting you may borrow a firearm from you to go hunting. Another exception is provided for transfers of firearms to nonresidents to carry out a lawful bequest or acquisition by intestate succession. This exception would authorize the transfer of a firearm to a nonresident who inherits a firearm under the will of a decedent. See 18 U.S.C. 922(a)(5).

But even if you click and read, the "official" answer is not correct (or at least incomplete).

It doesn't make the distinction between long guns and handguns, and it is absolutely legal to buy a long gun at a FFL in the seller's state.

Here is what Cabelas has to say about it.

• Long guns can be purchased and transferred to a resident of any state in any state provided that the transfer is legal in both the purchaser's state and the state in which the transfer is taking place
  • State residency regulations vary from state to state. Please click the following link (http://www.atf.gov/publications/firearms/index.html) to see if the firearm you are interested in can be transferred to you in any of our 29 retail locations.

http://www.cabelas.com/custserv/custserv.jsp?pageName=GunRestrictions

 

[gh1950]

One question I don't have the answer to, mostly because I don't deal with Gunbroker all that much.

A lot of sellers on GB have clauses that there are "no returns or exchanges".

So what if the seller, usually a FFL ships a gun the the buyer's FFL and the buyer doesn't pass the background check?

The selling FFL is still responsible for the gun and seeing that there is a legal transfer. The selling FFL has the buyer's money, so the buyer can't exactly have a "buddy" pick up the gun.

So what happens?

 

[BanjoJohn]

One question I don't have the answer to, mostly because I don't deal with Gunbroker all that much.

A lot of sellers on GB have clauses that there are "no returns or exchanges".

So what if the seller, usually a FFL ships a gun the the buyer's FFL and the buyer doesn't pass the background check?

The selling FFL is still responsible for the gun and seeing that there is a legal transfer. The selling FFL has the buyer's money, so the buyer can't exactly have a "buddy" pick up the gun.

So what happens?

That's like when the coyote runs off the cliff while chasing the road runner. oops.

I would say that you might want to check your background first.