Yeah that's bs . My vz61 skorpion has thousands of rounds Down it. Shoots just like it did brand new . Most of us will never hang on to a gun and shoot it enough to the point accuracy is degraded .
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CZ guys, what are your round counts?
- Thread starter Iron Outlaw
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A truism big time.
Especially around here ! We don't hang on to ****! Guns just get passed around !
Please tell me that you don't consider 500 a lot. Way back when I first started shooting guns about 5 years ago, I had a CZ clone. I put close to 9000 rounds through it in about 1.5 years time. I used to own a .45 HK. I put about 3000 rounds through it.
My current CZ only has about 560 rounds through it, but that's because since I owned it, I started grad school. I did put 266 rounds through it last week. They were 16 rounds of my 124 grain Speer Gold Dots (accidentally shot through my carry ammo before I realized it), 100 rounds of Magtech, 50 rounds of Crusader Ballistics (reloads), 50 rounds of I forget what, and 50 rounds of S & B. The remaining 300ish rounds have all been my own reloads (124 grain Montana Gold JHP and Vihtavuori n320 powder). I had zero fails except in the beginning when I was shooting my reloads and fine tuning the powder charge; I had 1 or 2 fails before I developed the current load...forgot what the fail was but I document everything.
And yes, bull**** alert on high round count CZs losing accuracy.
Round count is irrelevant, IMO. My Glock 27 with around 4-600rds(by me, second owner) and looks like it has more wear than a Glock 19 we have at work with over 15k rounds...if it's taken care of, it should always be gtg.
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FWIW, I don't consider any gun that I own as reliable until it has 1000 rounds down the pipe without failing, excluding failures from developing reloading recipes. Once the recipe is fine tuned, if the gun has a fail with it within 1000 rounds, it's not reliable to me.
That CZ clone I used to own had a failure rate of 1 - 2%. It literally had 1 to 2 fails every 100 rounds regardless of ammo. I shot factory ammo. I shot FMJs. I shot JHPs. I shot 9mm NATO. I shot reloads. That **** failed every 100 rounds, once or twice. The only thing reliable about it was that it would fail within that 100 rounds.
I was told these guns had to be broken in and to shoot NATO, so I shot 1000 rounds of 9mm NATO through it after the initial fails. No bueno. I shot 1000 rounds of 124 gr Speer Gold Dots. When that didn't work, I developed my own reloads to the cartridge length measurements of that specific gun (as I do with any gun I'm reloading for). It still failed without fail. <---so punny. When that didn't work, I shot various other factory rounds through it in FMJ and JHP flavores. Nothing worked to make it stop failing.
So I got rid of it. My mistake was in investing 9000 rounds of ammo for the gun.
That CZ clone I used to own had a failure rate of 1 - 2%. It literally had 1 to 2 fails every 100 rounds regardless of ammo. I shot factory ammo. I shot FMJs. I shot JHPs. I shot 9mm NATO. I shot reloads. That **** failed every 100 rounds, once or twice. The only thing reliable about it was that it would fail within that 100 rounds.
I was told these guns had to be broken in and to shoot NATO, so I shot 1000 rounds of 9mm NATO through it after the initial fails. No bueno. I shot 1000 rounds of 124 gr Speer Gold Dots. When that didn't work, I developed my own reloads to the cartridge length measurements of that specific gun (as I do with any gun I'm reloading for). It still failed without fail. <---so punny. When that didn't work, I shot various other factory rounds through it in FMJ and JHP flavores. Nothing worked to make it stop failing.
So I got rid of it. My mistake was in investing 9000 rounds of ammo for the gun.
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Not trying to start a scrap, but if you want reliable with the cz guys, the Block/Glock can't be beat. Cz is a little easier to shoot well. The Glock will never be a _________ insert brand custom 1911, but it will go bang every time and is plenty accurate. Main thing is picking one and training with it.
CZs are reliable. They just tend to come with short chambers and must be reloaded accordingly. As an example, I load my CZ to an overall length of 1.085. I load my M&P to 1.1. My CZ clone...now that was unreliable.
more than several thousand
i have no idea. i have had my cz75 since 2006
i have no idea. i have had my cz75 since 2006
ive never had my cz75 jam
i had a glock 19 ftf on me
i would not say one brand is going to be better than the other at a certain level.
