Do you agree with the court?? Open Carry

[attison]

I'm all for those things skippy. But you sir are suffering from HUA.

Do you honetly not have a problem with the "officer" allowing him to walk thru the park with that firearm that he suspects is illegal until he got to the parking lot and then drawing down on him? Seems to me that after the first ranger talked to him the guys intent and demeanor was apparent. Seems to me if there was a need to draw down on him and take the firearm then there was a need to go and find him in the park and not just allow him to walk back to the parking lot. THAT is where I think the actions of the officers was wrong and why I believe the ruling was wrong.

It's this simple, HE WAS FOLLOWING ORDERS! It doesn't matter what you think the courts have ruled. Obviously you don't have a job where you have to follow the orders of your superiors. In public safety, you follow orders or else you will be jobless. If the officer thought that the order was unlawful he could have bucked, but it was an lawful order, therefore he followed it. We can argue all day, my opinion and your opinion will not change the opinion that matters, the courts. The court has ruled, the idiot lost. Now if you want to continue to argue, go to school become a lawyer, find this guy, tell him he was wronged by the system and take it back to court and argue your points to the judges. It's done and over with. I'm sure this idiot will screw up again so you got time. Better yet why not go and join him y'all can become roomies, then talk all friggin day long about how his rights were violated. Y'all can play ermy together and see how many LEO's you can try and get on YouTube. But you seriously have a bad case of HUA for this case which is done and over with. Time to move on.

 

[rlt3241963]

I don't mean to come off stupid but, what does HUA mean?

 

[attison]

I don't mean to come off stupid but, what does HUA mean?

Lol, it's an acronym for a very common medical syndrome: H - Head U - Up A- A$$. It occurs when people's heads are so far up their butts they can't seem to see the daylight or breathe.

 

[rlt3241963]

Ok.... I get it now.....

 

[dunkel]

If he'd just been conceal carrying and not seeking attention like the group out there that wants a confrontation with Law Enforcement there wouldn't be any issues. I'll appeal MY right when it comes into question and itshould be that way on a case by case basis. All these people seem to be doing is creating a division between LE and law abiding firearm owners.
If he'd not been seeking the attention then none of this probably wouldn't be an issue, but he did and it is.

He was doing it on purpose, to get the attention, and to push the limits a bit, so going concealed would have been a bit silly.

And if acting lawfully (which he was) drives a wedge between law enforcement and citizens, maybe the problem is with law enforcement and not the citizen.

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I'm not defending or crucifying, I'm pointing out that these people seeking a confrontation with LE are causing problems that didn't exists before. Now the next person who's just trying to be cool and on their merry way will catch flak because now these Rangers are probably pissed off.

If they get their hands smacked enough for harassing law abiding citizens, then they will eventually stop.

 

[shadowman3861]

I agree with what most are saying, Yes your rights to carry in any form ARE being threatened: But not by LE ,But by the Courts, With the help of jack asses who try crap like this.
EXAMPLE: The first Ranger stops this guy and thats the end of it?
He dosnt really know what this guys intentions are.
Just an example, Now BETWEEN this confrontation and the Last, the guy desides to play kill the pigeons in the park: i.e. "Humans".
Then when yours or someone elses 3 year old catches a round in the head, Plus mom dad and anybody else that happend to be there.
THEN we would all be on here B**ching about just how damn stupid these Rangers are for letting the guy go when they had him at the first stop.
It would be That they were not doing their job!!!
That is a fact! Thats how it works on here.
Its a double edge sword no matter how you cut it.
But to have the courts set a precedents based on this case alone is not right in my OP.
But if the jerks keep pushing the issue by doing stupid acts like this It WILL.
That I dont agree with.
You push something hard enough, It will fall over.
Lets just hope it dosnt fall on Our right to carry at all.

 

[rlt3241963]

I agree with what most are saying, Yes your rights to carry in any form ARE being threatened: But not by LE ,But by the Courts, With the help of jack asses who try crap like this.
EXAMPLE: The first Ranger stops this guy and thats the end of it?
He dosnt really know this guys intentions are.
Just an example, Now BETWEEN this confrontation and the Last, the guy desides to play kill the pigeons in the park: i.e. "Humans".
Then when yours or someone elses 3 year old catches a round in the head, Plus mom dad and anybody else that happend to be there.
Then we would all be on here B**ching about just how damn stupid these Rangers are for letting the guy go when they had him at the first stop.
It would be That they were not doing their job!!!
That is a fact! Thats how it works on here.
Its a double edge sword no matter how you cut it.
But to have the courts set a precedents based on this case alone is not right in my OP.
But if the jerks keep pushing the issue by doing stupid acts like this It WILL.
That I dont agree with.
You push something hard enough, It will fall over.
Lets just hope it dosnt fall on Our right to carry at all.

 

[dunkel]

I agree with what most are saying, Yes your rights to carry in any form ARE being threatened: But not by LE ,But by the Courts, With the help of jack asses who try crap like this.
EXAMPLE: The first Ranger stops this guy and thats the end of it?
He dosnt really know what this guys intentions are.
Just an example, Now BETWEEN this confrontation and the Last, the guy desides to play kill the pigeons in the park: i.e. "Humans".
Then when yours or someone elses 3 year old catches a round in the head, Plus mom dad and anybody else that happend to be there.
THEN we would all be on here B**ching about just how damn stupid these Rangers are for letting the guy go when they had him at the first stop.
It would be That they were not doing their job!!!
That is a fact! Thats how it works on here.
Its a double edge sword no matter how you cut it.
But to have the courts set a precedents based on this case alone is not right in my OP.
But if the jerks keep pushing the issue by doing stupid acts like this It WILL.
That I dont agree with.
You push something hard enough, It will fall over.
Lets just hope it dosnt fall on Our right to carry at all.

If you don't push at all, why bother having the right?

 

[Patronus]

It's not the cops that threaten out rights. And it's really not the courts. It's the politicians. And thy get their marching orders from the populace. Oh we may point out that they often do things whether we the people want them to or not and it's certainly a problem. But most gun control legislation is passed with the consent of, if not at the insistance of, people. For some stupid, egocentric moron like this to go out and stir up trouble is the wet dream of every gun grabber. Rather than sensibly introduce people to the sight of a responsible person carrying a tool of self defense while presenting the appearance of reasonability and respectability, this jackass goes out all cammoed up with the most recognizable and demonized weapon he can and scares the hell out of people. Are they right to be afraid? In his case maybe not. But with the news filled weekly with stories of shootings everywhere are they ALL that UNreasonable to be afraid? NO.

We have a RIGHT to be armed. I agree with that one hundred percent. But with every right comes responsibility. Some people can't elevate themselves above the selfish and self-righteous need to be jackasses long enough to consider the impact their actions have on the gun owning community and the country as a whole. If we keep supporting dumbasses like this they WILL force enough attention(NEGATIVE attention) to the issue that the liberals WILL succeed in pushing thru legislation that will erode our rights until they are gone altogether.

I'm not telling anyone what they can or can not carry, what they can or can not wear while carrying or where they can or can not go while carrying. What I'm saying is that just because you CAN doesn't mean you SHOULD. What you SHOULD do is act like you have a brain and if you are going to carry openly, do it responsibly and respectably. Phillip Morris didn't use a fat guy in boxer shorts scratching his balls while sitting on his couch watching porn to advertize Marlborros...why in the hell would we want cammo joe the ak totin' redneck moron advertising for gun rights?

Now y'll stuck on stupid, "we kin tote any gun we want" dip ****s feel free to jump all over that.

 

[attison]

I agree with what most are saying, Yes your rights to carry in any form ARE being threatened: But not by LE ,But by the Courts, With the help of jack asses who try crap like this.
EXAMPLE: The first Ranger stops this guy and thats the end of it?
He dosnt really know what this guys intentions are.
Just an example, Now BETWEEN this confrontation and the Last, the guy desides to play kill the pigeons in the park: i.e. "Humans".
Then when yours or someone elses 3 year old catches a round in the head, Plus mom dad and anybody else that happend to be there.
THEN we would all be on here B**ching about just how damn stupid these Rangers are for letting the guy go when they had him at the first stop.
It would be That they were not doing their job!!!
That is a fact! Thats how it works on here.
Its a double edge sword no matter how you cut it.
But to have the courts set a precedents based on this case alone is not right in my OP.
But if the jerks keep pushing the issue by doing stupid acts like this It WILL.
That I dont agree with.
You push something hard enough, It will fall over.
Lets just hope it dosnt fall on Our right to carry at all.

If you don't push at all, why bother having the right?

Why is there a need to push? Your mentality is exactly why rights and privileges are taken away. No need to push rights that we already have.