I'd rather have a full set of subtends like I do in traditional MOA and Milrad reticles in the scopes I own now.You can range with a mil dot. The xmas tree is for holding wind and elevation at the same time, which now that I think about it, makes a lot of sense in a lpvo. I've got xmas trees in all my scopes for the most part and I don't think I've ever needed them. No wind near ATL. They look cool though
Dots ain't gettin' it.