Firearm borrowed by friend & he sold it!

[gh1950]

"If OP wants to pursue this, he needs to file a police report, regardless of that the popo tell him, get a copy of the report, and take it to the magistrate and seek a warrant." Really? Seems like I have read that somewhere? Oh yeah, it was post #33 and #52, imagine that.

One man's/woman's story alone absent some other circumstantial or physical evidence is never going to rise to the level of probable cause, at least not in the last 23 years I have been working in law enforcement.

Really? Want to explain how that worked out for Evelyn Johnson? Where was the circumstantial or physical evidence that got her killed?

The fact that OP had a rifle, delivered it in trust to a third party, and the third party now refuses to return the rifle is classic "circumstantial evidence".

The paper is full of police reports every day about people accosted on the street, getting robbed, and then calling the police. What circumstantial evidence do they have that they actually got robbed? The police take the report and then start looking for people on the street matching the descriptions given by the victims. The popo don't even know who the perpetrator is, but they will gladly pick up a likely looking suspect and put him in the back of the cruiser.

Maybe the so called victim just left his wallet in the last bar he was in.

 

[WyldeDime]

It's obvious that you haven't been arrested or accused of wrong doing.

Believe what you want to believe. I could care less.

So you think the cops are going to come arrest someone based on a text message that is on your phone? Your phone, not mine? For a case like this? Ok...

 

[CQB27]

What could he say? He admitted to the texts.

And he ain’t in jail. Hell, he didn’t even get fired, so there’s that.

It's almost impossible to fire a FBI agent. I once read a book about Robert Hanssen, an FBI agent who was a Russian spy in his spare time(when Russia was still the USSR). His work ethic was horrible, he was an alcoholic that who had been showing up for work drunk for years. When he was caught spying and the agency was questioned about his years of drunken work and why he wasn't fired.....they responded "we couldn't fire him", FBI Agent Association and all that.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Hanssen

 

[gh1950]

I .when according to the hive all you have to do is go on down to the magistrate and say "Shagbag stole my Stang!" and get an arrest warrant immediately issued.

BTW, as far I can tell, you are the only one who said this is the way it happens.

I deliberately said the OP can "seek a warrant". Which IS the way it happens. I realize such fine distinctions in criminal procedure are probably not fully appreciated by someone with only 23 years experience, but one can hope that wisdom will come with time.

 

[BanjoJohn]

So you think the cops are going to come arrest someone based on a text message that is on your phone? Your phone, not mine? For a case like this? Ok...

Why don't you send a bomb threat via text message from your phone and see what happens?

I've been there and done that, got the cash to prove it.

This new technology has kinda got you baffled.

Do you realize that when you send someone a text that your number will accompany the text?

The text are also on your phone. Everything can be recovered except Hillary's emails.

 

[gh1950]

So you think the cops are going to come arrest someone based on a text message that is on your phone?

Actually they do that quite frequently. One of the unintended consequences of the electronic age is that a text message is almost like a finger print. Even if you use a "burner phone" the mesaages will live on for eternity.

 

[WyldeDime]

Why don't you send a bomb threat via text message from your phone and see what happens?

I've been there and done that, got the cash to prove it.

This new technology has kinda got you baffled.

Do you realize that when you send someone a text that your number will accompany the text?

The text are also on your phone. Everything can be recovered except Hillary's emails.

We are not talking about bomb threats, we are talking about a he said, he said.

And technology has ME baffeled? Do you realize that I can spoof your number and send someone a text under it?

Texts messages ain’t proof of anything.

 

[BanjoJohn]

Actually they do that quite frequently. One of the unintended consequences of the electronic age is that a text message is almost like a finger print. Even if you use a "burner phone" the mesaages will live on for eternity.

I don't think everyone is up to speed with this internet thingy.

 

[WyldeDime]

Actually they do that quite frequently. One of the unintended consequences of the electronic age is that a text message is almost like a finger print. Even if you use a "burner phone" the mesaages will live on for eternity.

Show me an apples to apples example where this has happened. Show me an example of someone going to jail for a case just like the OP is talking about and where the text messages were used to put them there.

 

[BanjoJohn]

We are not talking about bomb threats, we are talking about a he said, he said.

And technology has ME baffeled? Do you realize that I can spoof your number and send someone a text under it?

Texts messages ain’t proof of anything.

Then text away with immunity my brother.

Why not text some kiddy porn while you are at it and let us know how you come out.