French Style ISIS Attack, in Georgia?

[Flammenwerfer]

If you think you have an advantage and can win, engage. If not, wait until you do have an advantage

No longer than this particular scenerio lasted, I don't believe there is time to gain the advantage. These guys were pro's, I'm no new age, Hawkeye optician-minuteman, but in my opinion by the time you assess the situation return to your vehicle to grab a useful firearm....you know, something other than a P3AT, it's over.....people have died, bad guys are gone.

 

[Jump211]

well said, some folks on here just won't get it until they feel their ***** have at least measured up to everyone else, maybe a little bigger.

Lucky for me, I am resigned to the fact that my **** doesn't require a measuring tape, only a thimble for perspective 😞

 

[Eshrote]

Comes down to practical risk assessment, not blind fury and big dong. Take Desert 1 for example. They would have loved to move on Tehran.. But the tactical advantage was gone.. Fell below what they felt were minimum acceptable risks. Sure, they could have charged in, maybe beat the odds.. But the math said everyone stood a better chance of getting shot in the face vs coming home to a ticker tape parade. Caution won over valor. What it also said was, the lives of the hostages weren't worth the lives of the operators to stupidly throw away with little chance of success

 

[Flammenwerfer]

Comes down to practical risk assessment, not blind fury and big dong. Take Desert 1 for example. They would have loved to move on Tehran.. But the tactical advantage was gone.. Fell below what they felt were minimum acceptable risks. Sure, they could have charged in, maybe beat the odds.. But the math said everyone stood a better chance of getting shot in the face vs coming home to a ticker tape parade. Caution won over valor. What it also said was, the lives of the hostages weren't worth the lives of the operators to stupidly throw away with little chance of success

That sums the thread up: Caution won over valor.

 

[PA4476]

If only ....

 

[Jholdbrooks]

if only ....

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[Ramon]

If you are armed I think it would be the right thing to do to try and help the innocent. But I wouldn't jump in it blindly, this is why training and really knowing how to use it comes into play.

 

[Double Tap]

Some interesting, valid and disappointing responses in this thread titled "French styled ISIS attack, in Georgia". In trying to keep in context with the thread, Paris could be considered the ultimate "gun free zone". French citizens are prohibited by their government from arming, and thus the right to protect themselves (and others) from such attacks. Thank God, and the 2nd Amendment, many of us in the US are allowed that right, and I for one accept that as a privilege and a responsibility. It is also the right of US citizens to express their opinions that those who accept that responsibility are somehow "Hawkeye optician-minuteman" or ridiculed as "operators" with some phallic obsession.

Some comparisons to the French styled ISIS attack can be made with incidents here in the US. Mass killings such as those in Aurora, Virginia Tech, Lancaster, Ft. Hood, Sandy Hook and Columbine can be considered similar attacks by fanatics. Desert Storm or other controlled military engagements are not a proper comparison.

Should ISIS decide to bring their murdering fanaticism to our country, no doubt it will be in areas like Paris, gun free zones. Terror is their goal, and killing as many innocents as they can is their way to accomplish that. Any fanatic with mass murder on their minds would not try to attack a well armed population with an attack like in Paris. That is why I consider my right to be armed as a responsibility. I don't arm myself with the hopes of getting into a shootout, but if do find myself in such a desperate situation as Aurora, I would feel obligated to try and do what I could to protect myself and others. If I had a shot, I would take it in an attempt to do something other than be afraid (terrorized) and run away. And yes, even if I didn't have a reasonable shot, I would find the best cover I could and attempt to draw fire if that would allow women and children to escape. Belittle me as an "operator" all you wish, but God forbid those women and children are members of your family. I pray that if they were mine, someone would give them a chance to survive and engage.

So with much respect, and in the words of the heroes of Flight 93 when confronted with terror..."Let's roll".

 

[Laufen]

Some interesting, valid and disappointing responses in this thread titled "French styled ISIS attack, in Georgia". In trying to keep in context with the thread, Paris could be considered the ultimate "gun free zone". French citizens are prohibited by their government from arming, and thus the right to protect themselves (and others) from such attacks.

Sorry, but that's total bull****. You can quite easily purchase firearms, and suppressors can be purchased over the counter like a hamburger.

Prices are a bit high, especially with the weakening Euro. I saw Remington 700 SPS's for $1k, and Winchester 94's for $800-950. Cans went from $50-250 on average.

 

[Indirect Fire]

Sorry, but that's total bull****. You can quite easily purchase firearms, and suppressors can be purchased over the counter like a hamburger.

Prices are a bit high, especially with the weakening Euro. I saw Remington 700 SPS's for $1k, and Winchester 94's for $800-950.

You are correct. The ignorance of Americans regarding the French is hilarious at times. It must be the accent that throws them off. LOL

I told myself I would not comment in this disaster of a thread but sheesh man.