Item Gone: FS Do you know what it is? 1870 USN Falling Block Springfield Carbine 50-70gov

[chandlee312]

Item Name: FS Do you know what it is? 1870 USN Falling Block Springfield Carbine 50-70gov

Location: Alpharetta

Zip Code: 30004

Item is for: Sale Only
Sale Price: 3500

Caliber: 50-70 Government

Willing to Ship: No

Bill of Sale Required?: No

Item Description: Seem to have a mystery on my hands.
A seemingly very rare " 1870 USN Springfield Carbine- Falling Block Remington's Patent Carbine.

Looking for Falling Block / Trap Door experts to share their opinion.

The barrel doesn't appear to have been cut nor is it clear to tell that it was sporterized. The carbine did in fact look like this. There are only a few made, under the 350 mark from what I can tell?!

Share your thoughts!

Pictures:

 

[greg vess]

I'm not an expert but that is a rolling block not a falling block. I have an 1879 Argentine rolling block in 43 Spanish.

I believe you are correct sir. I the falling block went straight up a down. The rolling block rotated back and forth rotating with a lever to operate it. That's what that second looking hammer is. It's not a hammer it's a lever to rotate the rolling block back and forth after chambering a round and lock the block with the second lever.

 

[sandste1]

I believe you are correct sir. I the falling block went straight up a down. The rolling block rotated back and forth rotating with a lever to operate it. That's what that second looking hammer is. It's not a hammer it's a lever to mover the rolling block back and forth after chambering a round and lock the block with the second lever.

That's correct

 

[SlimChance]

Sadly, the gun appears to have been refinished. As such, it will grade as a no finish gun. Still a very interesting piece of history.

 

[chandlee312]

I believe it is a very rare piece of American History!
A untouched , never used bright barreled 1870 Springfield that was developed for the United States Navy and never used.
Many were made with the site too close to the breach. All case colored models, with Broght Barrels or Browned Barrels. The site on this model is in the correct location, per the original USN orders expectations.
The book I found on this rare Springfield / Remington topic said if you are lucky enough to actually find one, it would either be mint condition case coloring w a a bright barrel or so worn out you wouldn't know what it was.
Still holding out hope it's on of the rare misordered navy Carbines.. only four were produced in history!!!

It's a very complex story on these Navy Springfields.
Most books don't go into detail.