Handgun caliber arguments are dumb

[SirBannedAlot]

Any time a bullet pushes incompressable (mostly liquid) tissue out of the way, there is a shock wave that travels away from the wound track and damages other stuff, over-stimulates nerves, etc.
This can happen at speeds far below Mach 2.
If you know of some scientific definition of "hydrostatic shock" that requires 2,200 f.p.s. at impact, please post a link.

She makes a compelling case...

 

[BamaBrad]

Did someone say 10mm???

 

[Ken Ford]

Bullet placement is key and if that was the only factor than a 22 would be fine.
Under duress most cannot hit the aimed point about 90% or more of the time.
In a life and death situation you will say and do things you can’t imagine.
Motor skills deteriorate and opponents don’t stand still.
I want the most bang for my buck, so to speak. That means I want the most powerful cartridge with as much capacity as practical and I can effectively deploy. That will be different for everyone.
Why do 9mm fan boys constantly have to justify their choice?

 

[romans1212]

Right on!

 

[crippen]

Bullet placement is key and if that was the only factor than a 22 would be fine.
Under duress most cannot hit the aimed point about 90% or more of the time.
In a life and death situation you will say and do things you can’t imagine.
Motor skills deteriorate and opponents don’t stand still.
I want the most bang for my buck, so to speak. That means I want the most powerful cartridge with as much capacity as practical and I can effectively deploy. That will be different for everyone.
Why do 9mm fan boys constantly have to justify their choice?

9mm fans don’t have to justify anything. The facts do that for us.

 

[HoopDawg42]

Hose 'em down with the FN Five-seveN. Perp would think they kicked a hornets nest.

 

[Tony2X]

F a lil 9mm.

There are typically eight pellets with a diameter of .36 inches in a 000 buck round, depending on the shell size and manufacturer.

Buckshot
US Size UK Size Nominal diameter
#000 Buck LG .36" (9.1 mm)

 

[GAgunLAWbooklet]

She makes a compelling case...

She proved that her jugs jiggle when she shoots heavy recoiling guns, and those high-powered rifles that she shoots make plastic bottles and metal cans of liquid splatter everywhere.

Here's a video of a guy making a soda bottle filled with liquid explode the same way, but he is using a 12 gauge shotgun which will typically fire its 1 ounce slug at about 1600 ft./s.

 

[Bear44]

You should use the most powerful round that you can shoot accurately and rapidly in a platform with a high enough capacity, but small enough that you will carry regularly.

If that round is only a .380 and you are a normal healthy adult, you need to do a lot more training.

 

[MRH]

I feel equally about common calibers 9mm and larger. Any of them are fine. I just want to stop the threat and survive. That's the goal. Yes it would be a use of deadly force, but I don't care if they die as long as they are stopped.

I agree handgun caliber debates are stupid, although they can be entertaining.