How Do You Carry A 1911

[jlcnuke]

Steps required (assuming the slide is forward):
Condition 4- Insert magazine. Rack slide. Release safety. Fire the weapon.
Condition 3- Rack slide. Release safety. Fire the weapon.
Condition 2- Fire the weapon.
Condition 1- Release safety. Fire the weapon.
Condition 0- Fire the weapon.

 

[Luke]

Steps required (assuming the slide is forward):
Condition 4- Insert magazine. Rack slide. Release safety. Fire the weapon.
Condition 3- Rack slide. Release safety. Fire the weapon.
Condition 2- Fire the weapon.
Condition 1- Release safety. Fire the weapon.
Condition 0- Fire the weapon.

When dealing with a SA auto, Condition 2 is round chambered, hammer down. So the steps to fire would be, cock the weapon, fire the weapon.

Luke

 

[2001SportTJ]

Steps required (assuming the slide is forward):
Condition 4- Insert magazine. Rack slide. Release safety. Fire the weapon.
Condition 3- Rack slide. Release safety. Fire the weapon.
Condition 2- Fire the weapon.
Condition 1- Release safety. Fire the weapon.
Condition 0- Fire the weapon.

You can't activate the thumb safety unless the hammer is cocked. So in condition 4 and 3 you could skip that step unless you activate the thumb safety after you rack the slide(which would be retarded). I still don't understand why anybody would carry a 1911 in anything except condition 1.

 

[Tazz]

Cocked, locked and ready to rock doc. Everyday for over 13 years and off & on for 10 years before that.

 

[Luke]

You can't activate the thumb safety unless the hammer is cocked. So in condition 4 and 3 you could skip that step unless you activate the thumb safety after you rack the slide(which would be retarded). I still don't understand why anybody would carry a 1911 in anything except condition 1.

This is true for the 1911s but Smith Series Autoloaders from the days when guns were made from metal, could remain on "safe" and the slide function.

Luke

 

[2001SportTJ]

This is true for the 1911s but Smith Series Autoloaders from the days when guns were made from metal, could remain on "safe" and the slide function.

Luke

Oh my bad, I thought we were talking about 1911's.

 

[PapaTokarev]

Some folks carry them 'hot' (cocked, safety off) and others will carry with an empty tube. Cocked and locked works for me, but if I had a good retention holster, and I was unable to carry something else, I might consider carrying it hot.

 

[Luke]

Oh my bad, I thought we were talking about 1911's.

True, but his Condition 2 definition ruled out 1911s.

Luke

 

[jlcnuke]

Oh my bad, I thought we were talking about 1911's.

My comments were directed toward the person who asked about what condition a Glock would be considered with a round chambered. Most of today's semi-automatic pistols such as Glocks (not all, just most) can be operated as I mentioned in the various conditions. Specific manufacturers and models will vary, with 1911 style being obviously different as would SA only handguns etc. My major point being that outside of pulling the trigger, there is at least one step required to allow the gun to shoot with the exception of guns which are in Condition 0 (for models with a safety), or Condition 2 (for all non-SAO models).

I personally keep any gun I'm carrying in Condition 1 as all my carry guns have a manual safety and that is what I am most familiar/comfortable with. The decision is up to the individual on what weapon and carry method they are most familiar and/or comfortable with.

Edit:
It was this-

Speaking of this what condition is a Glock considered with one chambered?

 

[2001SportTJ]

True, but his Condition 2 definition ruled out 1911s.

Luke

You can carry with the hammer uncocked(dumb idea) you would just have to cock the hammer before firing, like you said. So you would be correct, HIS definition would in fact rule out 1911's. But I thought that we were talking about 1911's? Maybe I missed something.

Edit: Apparently I did miss something.