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Identify old rifles.

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I have two rifles I know very little about.
One is US model 1917 Winchester.
The second is also a bolt action but I don't see any words. There are numbers stamped into it. OT2934 appears on the action and barrel. OT3106 is on the bolt handle.
I doubt I will ever fire either I was just curious what they are.
 

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I'm guessing the one on the bottom? That is the one with markings. The one with the bad camo job has fewer markings.
BTW thank you to whomever moved this to the proper section
 
I'm guessing the one on the bottom? That is the one with markings. The one with the bad camo job has fewer markings.
BTW thank you to whomever moved this to the proper section


Yes, the lower one. Better pics of both would help our in house experts. Check out C&Arsenal and Forgotten Weapons on youtube. Both have good info.
 
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