If you chase someone down, it's hard to claim self defense...

[protective measures]

I agree. However it is a good reminder to know the law(s) in your state. I'll be the first to admit I don't know enough - the story has prompted me to go read up on it. I will say, however, if the SHTF at my house and I'm going to fire, I will hang up with 911 first!

Actually most every professional firearms Instructor/Academy that I know of advises people to do the opposite.

If you are LAWFULLY using , or about to use deadly force, the 911 recording can be a great witness for your defense & exoneration.
One of my first students had an attempted break-in at his house shortly after he finished his training.
He heard them trying to get in, called 911 gave his address & name & then loudly said," I hear you trying to break in... I am on the phone with the police, they are on the way. I have a gun & am in fear for my life. If you come thru the door I WILL SHOOT YOU!"

Then the best thing that could have happened did... they just left.
Had they came in anyway & had he shot them, that recording would have been a great witness on his behalf.
The court also usually looks with favor toward whomever was the first one to call 911.
During the stress of the actual encounter there may not be an opportunity to call (you have to survive first) but as soon as it is safe to, it's a good idea.
Or, if there are several witnesses, yell loudly for one of them to call 911 & send the police & an ambulance.

Mas Ayoob, Rob Pincus, Marty Hayes, & many other well-known professionals teach this at their schools & so do I at mine.

 

[SkyBreaker]

to me this guy should offend all legal carry and conceal permit holders
his actions endangers all of the work to further ccw rights
he is reason why they regulate honest citizens so much

yup.

 

[jabodgreat]

he wasnt chasing the kid... they were merely running in the same direction... the kid attacked this poor man and he defended himself. looks like self defense to me.

a kid being killed is no joking matter to me but maybe i have the sick sense of humor

 

[07JKX]

a kid being killed is no joking matter to me but maybe i have the sick sense of humor

yeah.. it is a shame when someone is killed as this article described. but with all the death in the world on a daily basis... I am getting kinda numb to it.

 

[BamaFan]

Actually most every professional firearms Instructor/Academy that I know of advises people to do the opposite.

If you are LAWFULLY using , or about to use deadly force, the 911 recording can be a great witness for your defense & exoneration.
One of my first students had an attempted break-in at his house shortly after he finished his training.
He heard them trying to get in, called 911 gave his address & name & then loudly said," I hear you trying to break in... I am on the phone with the police, they are on the way. I have a gun & am in fear for my life. If you come thru the door I WILL SHOOT YOU!"

Then the best thing that could have happened did... they just left.
Had they came in anyway & had he shot them, that recording would have been a great witness on his behalf.
The court also usually looks with favor toward whomever was the first one to call 911.
During the stress of the actual encounter there may not be an opportunity to call (you have to survive first) but as soon as it is safe to, it's a good idea.
Or, if there are several witnesses, yell loudly for one of them to call 911 & send the police & an ambulance.

Mas Ayoob, Rob Pincus, Marty Hayes, & many other well-known professionals teach this at their schools & so do I at mine.

I understand your point and understand your stress of the term LAWFUL. I'm no lawyer, but I do know from being in business a long time that every piece of evidence means different things to different people. It's actually amazing that multiple people can look at the same photo, document, video, audio, etc. and come away with completely opposite views of what it reads, shows, or means. What's more, sometimes they are all convincing!

 

[jabodgreat]

I don't know if the shooter was right or wrong, thats for a jury to decide but the media keeps flashing a picture of a 9 yr. ols dressed in a midget football uniform. He was 17 yrs. old 6'2'', 210 lbs. and wearing a hoodie in Central Fla. ?? Sharpton and Jackson will be there soon looking for donations.

you did not reply to my question is it because you made up that info ?

 

[protective measures]

I understand your point and understand your stress of the term LAWFUL. I'm no lawyer, but I do know from being in business a long time that every piece of evidence means different things to different people. It's actually amazing that multiple people can look at the same photo, document, video, audio, etc. and come away with completely opposite views of what it reads, shows, or means. What's more, sometimes they are all convincing!

I don't disagree with you about that.
I will add though that just like you mentioned you've already done, educating yourself on the laws & visualizing how various scenarios could go down is a great way to prepare yourself for these types of encounters.

I am convinced when a person does that diligently, their mind will process how to act more efficiently than those who have never given it much thought.

 

[jabodgreat]

I don't disagree with you about that.
I will add though that just like you mentioned you've already done, educating yourself on the laws & visualizing how various scenarios could go down is a great way to prepare yourself for these types of encounters.

I am convinced when a person does that diligently, their mind will process how to act more efficiently than those who have never given it much thought.

well put sir

 

[Cadcom]

This idiot states that he is in his car watching this kid. Then the kid is shot and killed hundreds of feet away from the street behind a house. How does this justify self defense or deadly force? This fool should have stayed in his car and listened to his police scanner and played with his handcuffs.

 

[AR556]

If you step out of your car, confront the individual and then chase him down is this really self defense? I don't think so. Why did the kid run? If he didn't do anything wrong, was there a reason he ran? Maybe dude showed him his gun? Lot's of questions on this one, but imo it's not self defense.