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My wife is 4'11" and petite and she handles the 38spl. just fine as does my step daughter who's 5'1" and petite! She also likes a 9mm !
Perhaps look at a tomcat. While it’s not the most potent round, the recoil won’t scare her and it’s simple to operate
My wife loves her S&W 380EZ & Browning 1911-380, she's 5'4" @ a whopping 105lbs. The longer grip on these compared to other "compact" 380's makes it's much easier to handle over the shorter grip alternatives.
She also likes her M&P 9C with the Crimson Trace grip. Given most women won't put as much time or thought into shooting, a laser on the gun will help in a time of need if something were ever to happen. Just need to let her know it's something that she shouldn't expect to always work when needed & to get used to shooting to understand the controls if there's a failure to clear. But the laser grip does help if under stress and shooting on the fly. Always a chance the pistol is never brought up to a shooting position and shot from the hip while being attacked.
Most women would carry in a purse and drawing from that takes more time compared to a guy who's practiced drawing from his waist.
She also likes her M&P 9C with the Crimson Trace grip. Given most women won't put as much time or thought into shooting, a laser on the gun will help in a time of need if something were ever to happen. Just need to let her know it's something that she shouldn't expect to always work when needed & to get used to shooting to understand the controls if there's a failure to clear. But the laser grip does help if under stress and shooting on the fly. Always a chance the pistol is never brought up to a shooting position and shot from the hip while being attacked.
Most women would carry in a purse and drawing from that takes more time compared to a guy who's practiced drawing from his waist.
100% agree!
If she isn’t carrying outside of their apartment, get a shotgun.
You love your daughter I assume. If so, don't get her a gun in a small caliber that will require her to hit very specific (small areas) to reliably stop a fight. Yes 22 can kill (and do). But mostly its from blood loss internally that happens 10+ mins after one is shot. What could someone do to your loved one in 10 mins while they bleed out... alot of bad bad things.
22, 25, 32, and really 380s struggle to make enough penetration reliably to reach all the important stuff. Now.. yes a 22 to temple will shut the lights out. But center mass shots with the smaller calibers will not end the fight timely enough to keep a determined attacker from harming her.
I echo what someone said above... if possible take her to a range and let her try out different guns and calibers. What can she handle for her hand size and recoil tolerance.
I'd suggest she look at a a reliable gun in a caliber that has enough KE to reach the vitals (normally 38 spl, 9mm, and up). Also, dont buy her the cheapest hipoint you can. Yes , any gun is better than no gun. However, if you get to chose why would you chose a gun that works 9 out of 10 times. This is her life you are betting on... 90% to me aint reliable enough for my loves ones.
So if you want specifics I'd suggest trying these:
Ruger SP101 3 inch in 327 Federal Mag. You can still find this ammo at local gun stores (not Academy) and its gonna run you $25 per box vs the current $60 for 9mm (ODT price). 327 Fed has 357 mag range of KE (blows away 38, 9, 380 and 45 in KE). Easy to use manual of arms (no safetys, slide locks, or failure to feed issues). You can load 32 Longs for low recoil practice. 32 HR Mag can also be shot in it and while not as powerful as the 327, it could be a good compromise and still be in the 38 spl power factor.
Smith and Wesson sheild 9mm. The EZ is certainly easier to manipulate, However, you have to manipulate a standard safety, a grip safety, as well as the trigger safety. The non EZ can be had with no grip or manual safety (just the trigger one). These guns are small, so recoil could be an issue. The grip is narrow enough that folks with small hands can reach everything without breaking their grip.
Glock 17/19/43 which ever fits her the best. No manual safeties to worry about. Reliable. Good caliber. Millions of them made. After market upgrades are plentiful and inexpensive.
22, 25, 32, and really 380s struggle to make enough penetration reliably to reach all the important stuff. Now.. yes a 22 to temple will shut the lights out. But center mass shots with the smaller calibers will not end the fight timely enough to keep a determined attacker from harming her.
I echo what someone said above... if possible take her to a range and let her try out different guns and calibers. What can she handle for her hand size and recoil tolerance.
I'd suggest she look at a a reliable gun in a caliber that has enough KE to reach the vitals (normally 38 spl, 9mm, and up). Also, dont buy her the cheapest hipoint you can. Yes , any gun is better than no gun. However, if you get to chose why would you chose a gun that works 9 out of 10 times. This is her life you are betting on... 90% to me aint reliable enough for my loves ones.
So if you want specifics I'd suggest trying these:
Ruger SP101 3 inch in 327 Federal Mag. You can still find this ammo at local gun stores (not Academy) and its gonna run you $25 per box vs the current $60 for 9mm (ODT price). 327 Fed has 357 mag range of KE (blows away 38, 9, 380 and 45 in KE). Easy to use manual of arms (no safetys, slide locks, or failure to feed issues). You can load 32 Longs for low recoil practice. 32 HR Mag can also be shot in it and while not as powerful as the 327, it could be a good compromise and still be in the 38 spl power factor.
Smith and Wesson sheild 9mm. The EZ is certainly easier to manipulate, However, you have to manipulate a standard safety, a grip safety, as well as the trigger safety. The non EZ can be had with no grip or manual safety (just the trigger one). These guns are small, so recoil could be an issue. The grip is narrow enough that folks with small hands can reach everything without breaking their grip.
Glock 17/19/43 which ever fits her the best. No manual safeties to worry about. Reliable. Good caliber. Millions of them made. After market upgrades are plentiful and inexpensive.
Your argument has merit...*HOWEVER*, a properly designed small auto (even in 9mm) will have less felt recoil and be easier to control.
A buddy and I were shooting his M642 side by side with my Kahr CM9 a few years ago. His .38Spl loads were midrange semi-wadcutters, while I was shooting full power FMJ 9mm Winchester factory loads. After firing a couple of mags through my CM9, he went out and bought himself a CM9 the next week!
I've shot revolvers all of my life and I couldn't believe how much more felt recoil that 642 had!
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