Deer only—Our longest shots are around 400yds so we went with the 150’s (92.5 gr RL22) & 165’s (91.5 gr RL22) for less holdover. Two guys swear by the SSTs and three (me incl) swear by Barnes. I keep mine 2.5” high at 100 so there’s only about 8.5” drop at 400. Lay the crosshairs on the back at 400 and watch them drop like a rock- plus I’m color blind and can’t hardly follow a blood trail. We all practice at 300-400 so no worries on a still shot. And yea, way over gunned but it works.