I havent seen it in September But early October I have. Heck, they are bucks and when the velvet starts shedding they are good to go. I think thats how a lot of them break their antlers every year. I saw a lot of rubs this weekend. Could have been scrapping off velvet, but I could not find any little piece of velvet. I'm talking serious rub lines(5 or more trees in a row).