Lack of Workers

[FreedomUSMC]

So...America was not founded on "Democratic Socialism". ......"The ORIGINS of Democratic Socialism trace back to the 19th century, primarily in Britain at the time. The constitution and founding documents were written in the 18th century.

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democratic socialism supports the idea of cooperation and collective-interest in the economy. Is that not how America has always been run?

Perhaps I should say, America has been built on democratic socialism.

 

[rbalan]

I don’t know that I would call it a terror attack, but if some solid facts came about the supposed “pipe bombs” I might reconsider. There’s a lot of skepticism with government involvement as well as stupidity on “rioters”. It sounds like dem leaders are trying to make it out to much more than it was. Labeling it with Dec 7 and 911 is outlandishly disrespectful, pompous, and unacceptable. While I don’t agree with what happened, I hope ALL these politicians get a degree of fear from average Americans.

 

[FreedomUSMC]

I don’t know that I would call it a terror attack, but if some solid facts came about the supposed “pipe bombs” I might reconsider. There’s a lot of skepticism with government involvement as well as stupidity on “rioters”. It sounds like dem leaders are trying to make it out to much more than it was. Labeling it with Dec 7 and 911 is outlandishly disrespectful, pompous, and unacceptable. While I don’t agree with what happened, I hope ALL these politicians get a degree of fear from average Americans.

There are literally videos of officers being attacked, sprayed, beaten, kicked, dragged, rammed and crushed. A mob of people made threats to hang politicians and rushed a federal building with the intent of overthrowing an election.

That is the very definition of a terrorist attack. If any other group of people did that, everyone here would call them terrorists. I’ve heard much worse labels on here used for idiots looting stores.

And pipe bombs were found at the scene and at the man’s home.

 

[jaxyaks]

democratic socialism supports the idea of cooperation and collective-interest in the economy. Is that not how America has always been run?

Perhaps I should say, America has been built on democratic socialism.

No not really and I am pressed for time but here is a couple of generic definitions of democratic socialism..

Democratic socialism is defined as having a socialist economy in which the means of production are socially and collectively owned or controlled, alongside a liberal democratic political system of government. Democratic socialists reject most self-described socialist states and Marxism–Leninism.

And here is a link to democratic socialists letting you know what it is

What is Democratic Socialism? - Democratic Socialists of America (DSA)

Democratic socialists believe that both the economy and society should be run democratically—to meet public needs, not to make profits for a few.

www.dsausa.org

 

[jaxyaks]

Are you going to act like none of that happened? Nobody died? No Officers were attacked? No property was damaged?

There are literally videos of officers being attacked, sprayed, beaten, kicked, dragged, rammed and crushed. A mob of people made threats to hang politicians and rushed a federal building with the intent of overthrowing an election.

That is the very definition of a terrorist attack. If any other group of people did that, everyone here would call them terrorists. I’ve heard much worse labels on here used for idiots looting stores.

So I won't argue the domestic terrorism angle, but technically the only person that died during the protest was one of the protesters.

And I will also say this was a protest out of control...but I don't have to say it, even the justice department and govt appointed group said that is was not an organized preplanned event with the purpose of overthrowing the govt.

It was pretty much like any other protest that gets out of control, only in a different location than most.

 

[FreedomUSMC]

So I won't argue the domestic terrorism angle, but technically the only person that died during the protest was one of the protesters.

And I will also say this was a protest out of control...but I don't have to say it, even the justice department and govt appointed group said that is was not an organized preplanned event with the purpose of overthrowing the govt.

It was pretty much like any other protest that gets out of control, only in a different location than most.

Those people posted weeks in advance stating what they would do. The DOJ collected social media, text messages, and forum posts detailing the plans of Jan 6. Some of them made videos and posted to social media earlier in the day or the day before and stated what they were there to do. There were even people who had shirts and banners professionally made that stated what was going to happen.

 

[FreedomUSMC]

No other protest resulted in storming a federal building under the threat of hanging political figures. Where else did thousands of people attack police officers with barricades, bear mace, bats and sticks? What other protesters smashed media cameras, broke into and destroyed a historic building, burned government documents, stole equipment, and defaced historic art?

That has never ever happened.

Several Officers died as a result of injuries. If you hit someone with your car today and they die next week from it, it’s still murder.

 

[Ken Ford]

What are you talking about? Did you even read what I wrote? Or did you just paraphrase it so you could make a completely offbase response? Where did I say anything about Marxism, class warfare, or overthrowing anyone?

You can literally look up the tax records of corporations and see what taxes they do/ don't pay. Amazon paid ZERO taxes in 2018. Do you think that's the only company that's gotten away with that? Go research. The amount of taxes that corporations dodge, is significantly more than the amount of money spent on social programs. If you have a problem with social programs, stop using all the things those programs pay for. Roads, schools, police, voting, etc.

Do you even know what Marxism is? Marxism is a social, political, and economic theory that focuses on the struggle between capitalists and the working class. It's the belief that this conflict would ultimately lead to a revolution in which the working class would overthrow the capitalist class and seize control of the economy.

READ THAT AGAIN. Because you clearly don't comprehend well.

Are you saying there is no struggle between the working class and capitalists? There absolutely is. So his theory could very well come true. It has happened in several other countries. Aren't you a Trump supporter and support the terror attack on Jan 6th? I bet you're all for that. But have the nerve to post this hypocritical bs. I don't know what your issue is with me, but don't bother responding. You need serious mental help.

No, you are referring to corp federal income tax, no corp pays any real taxes anyway as the cost is just passed on to the consumer. But they still pay taxes ie; sales, taxes on incoming material, fuel and any of the plethora of other confiscatory taxes imposed. They also bring in a huge tax base of other contractors and employees, anything from janitors to the buisnesses supplying all the products. They also pay state taxes and state/fed fees for benefits. Don’t forget they also pay taxes on the health insurance they offer to employees.
Corps are taxes at a hugely higher rate than individuals, even without a specific corp welfare tax.

Your assertions are typical Marxist arguments to rile the “masses” into a Marxist revolt.

 

[Talos]

If any other group did that, what would you call it?

Don’t lie now.

If ANTIFA did it, y’all would call them terrorists and call for their heads. If BLM did it, they would have been shot dead and you’d call them Terrorist thugs. Cut the bs.

So what would you have called it if they actually did take over the government and hung the crooked politicians from the trees of the white house? I call that taking our country back.

 

[FreedomUSMC]

So what would you have called it if they actually did take over the government and hung the crooked politicians from the trees of the white house? I call that taking our country back.

The Victors write history. They didn’t win so there you go. If BLM tried that, you’d called them terrorists. Am I right?