Let’s talk Keto

[Fatal_Bert]

Why do you care how you achieve weight loss? The differences between weight loss using ketosis and regular diet and exercise are negligible. I can post physique if you'd like so you can see my qualifications. Ive been doing this for 15 years and seen many fads come and go and ketosis is one of those things that gets a different name every generation. last time it was called atkins.

I do find it interesting how strongly you advocate for ketosis but partake in alcohol as do several people in this thread. The literal anthesis of the entire foundation of keto diet. Which also completely nullifies the process. But lets put a pin in that.


Just reading some.of your guys results from doing this fad diet just sounds like general weight loss that has nothing special attached to it. If youre obese or borderline obese at >35% body fat then losing 50-100lbs may seem "miraculous" but in reality you're losing retained water and general food waste in a vast majority. If you go from consuming 10k calories a day for most of your adult life to 4k then of course you're going to lose a significant amount of weight despite the fact that you're still above what your body actually needs to function from a normal standpoint.

Using ketosis as a credit for these results is a highlight of some fundamental misunderstandings about health and fitness. Yes it can be helpful but it has significant diminishing returns when you compare it to a standard 2000-3000 calorie diet until you get to the low 20s in body fat percentage. Ketosis is only really effective for those who are trying to achieve low teens body fat which from what ive read, none of you are close to that number at all so its an unneeded point in literally all of your regimes.


I also have read nothing that indicates to me that people know how to accurately count macros so without that game plan then yes a calorie is a calorie. It doesnt matter if its a protein or from a sugar for your purposes. Many of you have indicated that the amount of physical exercise you do is lacking so you use the diet exclusively. Which is fine. But this goes back to my point about how diminishing keto diets really are for a majority of people.

Further adding to that, nobody here has displayed much knowledge in how macros translate diet wise to your health. I suspect many of you who lost a ton of weight lost it simply by not eating carbs. I am also willing to bet none of you know how many calories are actually in one slice of bread (hint its not just the stated calories on the package)


Also. Many of you guys are literally not even on ketosis which is the biggest irony of this entire thread. I applaud many of you losing weight and gaining healthier habits. But KETO DIET is NOT why you lost the weight hahahahaha. It is literally because you guys stopped eating a literal metric TON of garbage DAILY. THATS how easy health and fitness can be.

If it's not for you find another thread.
Yes the two or three times a month I drink alcohol it does temporarily knock me out if ketosis. Not a big deal.

And no, I don't count calories, don't really care, I eat super clean fats and proteins, I eat all that I want, and the weight falls off.

But it's about more than weightloss for me now, living in ketosis is very anti-inflammatory, the brain loves ketones, and it's just more calming not having metabolic spikes in blood sugar and insulin all the time.

I love the ignorance in calling Ketosis a fad diet, most of mankind lived in ketosis for millions of years. It's the way our bodies are still genetically coded to run. I love it, and never going back.

Actually probably gonna go straight carnivore and just eat meat like a caveman.

 

[Soul]

If it's not for you find another thread.
Yes the two or three times a month I drink alcohol it does temporarily knock me out if ketosis. Not a big deal.

And no, I don't count calories, don't really care, I eat super clean fats and proteins, I eat all that I want, and the weight falls off.

But it's about more than weightloss for me now, living in ketosis is very anti-inflammatory, the brain loves ketones, and it's just more calming not having metabolic spikes in blood sugar and insulin all the time.

I love the ignorance in calling Ketosis a fad diet, most of mankind lived in ketosis for millions of years. It's the way our bodies are still genetically coded to run. I love it, and never going back.

Actually probably gonna go straight carnivore and just eat meat like a caveman.

Ignorance huh? Care to compare physiques? Because results dont lie. I'm willing to bow down if your knowledge truly is superior

 

[Fatal_Bert]

Ignorance huh? Care to compare physiques? Because results dont lie. I'm willing to bow down if your knowledge truly is superior

Lots of people have great physiques despite carbs, not because of them.

My physique is not that that great, but it's better than it was last year, last month and last week.
I have no interest in comparing physiques with anyone but my former self.

If you have knowledge on how to obtain a great physique, please, by all means start a thread in the men's health forum and lay out your regimen for us. I will gladly read it.

 

[Soul]

Lots of people have great physiques despite carbs, not because of them.

My physique is not that that great, but it's better than it was last year, last month and last week.
I have no interest in comparing physiques with anyone but my former self.

If you have knowledge on how to obtain a great physique, please, by all means start a thread in the men's health forum and lay out your regimen for us. I will gladly read it.

Could you show me where I ever suggested people eat carbs? My entire posting has been about how the keto diet is nothing special and that your weight lost is correlated from reduced caloric intakes. thats it.

 

[Fish Fry]

It appears some folks burn excess calories by using index finger to type.... .

 

[Fatal_Bert]

Could you show me where I ever suggested people eat carbs? My entire posting has been about how the keto diet is nothing special and that your weight lost is correlated from reduced caloric intakes. thats it.

Mine is 100% correlated to reducing my insulin. I still eat a **** load of calories.

 

[rbstern]

I love the ignorance in calling Ketosis a fad diet, most of mankind lived in ketosis for millions of years. It's the way our bodies are still genetically coded to run. I love it, and never going back.

Well put.

 

[YUK0N]

the keto life is not for you Soul

It is a mans diet.

 

[YUK0N]

Yep, I couldn't tell you how to make them but I think it's just almond flour, baking powder, egg, butter and bacon. What's not to love.

I'll get the recipe Sunday and post up if I remember.

wHaTs NoT tO lOvE

 

[Fatal_Bert]

wHaTs NoT tO lOvE

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