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Duke556

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So today’s topic is friends, making friends as a man over 30, or over 40 as it is in my case. I think this is one of the biggest challenges we face individually as men and I’m gonna be the one to drop my nuts on the desk and address it with all of you. In the hopes that at the least we get a good discussion going, and at best maybe I can link up with someone to be a solid “local friend”. What do I mean by local friend, well I have two great ones that live 6 hours north and 6 hours south of me. Which is a little tough logistically to do anything more than once a month or once every other month based on their schedules (kids, work, girlfriend, etc).

I’m lucky that I have a supportive wife who is totally encouraging of her man getting out and doing “man ****” with other dudes as much as logistics allow. I have two local “place holders” who while close by, just don’t make the cut. I’m gonna get a little negative here for a minute but stay with me and I’ll pick it back up. The place holders are guys (we all know them) who are always saying “we need to go shoot”, or “we need to go get lunch” but you either don’t hear from them or when you reach out they have to ask momma if they can have some adult time. Or you’re just slightly out of their comfort zone and they don’t want to be challenged by a friend to be better (whether it’s more fitness, being well read, taking on some charity work, whatever really). A lot of guys (note, not men) want it easy, they want to be with someone who doesn’t question, challenge or push them to be better.

Well Gentlemen, that’s absolute horse**** and if you’re doing that, you’re a place holder for someone and you’re not being the best version of yourself for your wife, kids, job and certainly not yourself…and oh yeah, your dog knows too. I don’t mean to come off like an a$$ here because a lot of place holders know their situation and they just don’t want to spend the energy to come out of it. Therefore we gotta sort and sift til we find the men that can challenge us.

If you’re currently in a good tribe, well then, I congratulate you. Hell, send me a PM maybe I can be a part of it, maybe I can be challenged and uncomfortable catching up.

Ok so a little about me;

I don’t want to go to church with you. I love the lord but I also love my Sundays and am perfectly happy without the hypocrisy of organized religions on a lot of fronts (that one just lost me some contenders fellas LOL). But it’s how I feel.

I enjoy working out. Kettlebells, rucking, swimming, running weights. I’m former Mil and LE so the body has taken a beating. But if you can’t keep up with a 49 year old who’s been through some injuries than yeah…we covered that above.

I like to read, and write (obviously). I am a dog owner and my Dane mix is better behaved than most people’s kids. Lotta time and work goes into that. I am married (for a lot of years) and that came with some scars and lessons that I’m happy to pass on if someone is in my friend circle. By the time you reach 50 you realize that all of your mistakes and bullsh1t were for a reason and helped mold you into the person you currently are.

I’m not into sports, sorry lost a whole bunch with that one. My theory is if I didn’t go to the school, or ain’t being paid by the team then why should I give a rip, much less learn the stats, etc. If that’s you then go with god. Have a blast. I am a movie guy and can quote anchorman with the best of em’

If you wanna know more you’ll reach out. Or you can message me to GF myself, that’d be fine too LOL

Feel free to post comments on this taboo subject we all should be looking into.

Cheers gentlemen.

Matt
 
I've never had problems making friends. :noidea:. Granted, easiest around some common interest(s) but not even that always. You sound like you believe you have your big boy britches on so that's good. If you want to keep it real, it's very clear from your posts why you are having difficulty finding them.
It sounds like you know why as well.
 
I think the most appropriate 'mix' is to cultivate a number of what you call "place holders". Not everyones' interests mesh completely, and we're all big boys with our own lives, priorities and interests. But those 'place holders' are the pool of people who become closer friends.

I'm new to the area, and don't have a "friend network" close by either, but step by step I'm reaching out doing things I want to do and in the process meeting a number of people - many of which I know I'll only ever be on nodding acquaintance with. But for me, that's OK.

Finding male "buddies" is similar to finding a girlfriend. You find places to socialize and the best results happen when you're doing your own thing, not concentrating on "finding someone" and people simply gravitate to you or not. Nobody in their right mind thinks "I'm gonna go out and find a girlfriend tonight" with a high expectation of success. I don't see why finding "reliable" male buddies is any different. You have to put yourself in a variety of situations and just be sociable.

One excellent venue to meet at the very least "like minded people" is to attend the ODT BBQ meets. Low pressure, with the primary objective of shooting the **** and eating smoked meats.

FWIW, I don't think that this is a taboo subject at all. I DO think it's a subject that a lot of people overthink.
 
I think the most appropriate 'mix' is to cultivate a number of what you call "place holders". Not everyones' interests mesh completely, and we're all big boys with our own lives, priorities and interests. But those 'place holders' are the pool of people who become closer friends.

I'm new to the area, and don't have a "friend network" close by either, but step by step I'm reaching out doing things I want to do and in the process meeting a number of people - many of which I know I'll only ever be on nodding acquaintance with. But for me, that's OK.

Finding male "buddies" is similar to finding a girlfriend. You find places to socialize and the best results happen when you're doing your own thing, not concentrating on "finding someone" and people simply gravitate to you or not. Nobody in their right mind thinks "I'm gonna go out and find a girlfriend tonight" with a high expectation of success. I don't see why finding "reliable" male buddies is any different. You have to put yourself in a variety of situations and just be sociable.

One excellent venue to meet at the very least "like minded people" is to attend the ODT BBQ meets. Low pressure, with the primary objective of shooting the **** and eating smoked meats.

FWIW, I don't think that this is a taboo subject at all. I DO think it's a subject that a lot of people overthink.
That's a fair assessment. I think its taboo BECAUSE it's over thought. Society is changing and technology and schedules are certainly not helping us to be more connected in a real way.
 
I don’t want to go to church with you. I love the lord but I also love my Sundays and am perfectly happy without the hypocrisy of organized religions on a lot of fronts (that one just lost me some contenders fellas LOL). But it’s how I feel.

I enjoy working out. Kettlebells, rucking, swimming, running weights. I’m former Mil and LE so the body has taken a beating. But if you can’t keep up with a 49 year old who’s been through some injuries than yeah…we covered that above.

I like to read, and write (obviously). I am a dog owner and my Dane mix is better behaved than most people’s kids. Lotta time and work goes into that. I am married (for a lot of years) and that came with some scars and lessons that I’m happy to pass on if someone is in my friend circle. By the time you reach 50 you realize that all of your mistakes and bullsh1t were for a reason and helped mold you into the person you currently are.

I’m not into sports, sorry lost a whole bunch with that one. My theory is if I didn’t go to the school, or ain’t being paid by the team then why should I give a rip, much less learn the stats, etc. If that’s you then go with god. Have a blast. I am a movie guy and can quote anchorman with the best of em’



Cheers gentlemen.

Matt
I literally could have written this myself. I have a lot of situational buddies (work, gym, range, ect..) but no one I can depend on to do much of anything outside of where I normally interact with those individuals. My free time is limited so I have to plan **** to do and most people aren't worth the effort to accommodate their crap only to have them bail last minute.

I've gotten to the point that if my wife can't do it for some reason (she's a pretty tough country girl that loves shooting, hunting and cool guy ****) with me I just go it alone. My mental approach is probably creating most of the road blocks but I'm over 50 now so it is what it is. :becky:
 
I literally could have written this myself. I have a lot of situational buddies (work, gym, range, ect..) but no one I can depend on to do much of anything outside of where I normally interact with those individuals. My free time is limited so I have to plan **** to do and most people aren't worth the effort to accommodate their crap only to have them bail last minute.

I've gotten to the point that if my wife can't do it for some reason (she's a pretty tough country girl that loves shooting, hunting and cool guy ****) with me I just go it alone. My mental approach is probably creating most of the road blocks but I'm over 50 now so it is what it is. :becky:
It's my contention that you're in the majority. Or we are rather. Thanks for being the first to jump on with a response that is open. Like I said in my original post I'm happy for those that don't have this issue, but it doesn't affect the overall situation that most are facing. I think I'd be more tolerant of situational friends if they didn't bail like you said and if they realized the value of being away from the wife and kids sometimes.
 
Well, I think we're at crossed purposes here, so I went back and read your OP again with a different perspective - and maybe a more critical one - and I'll turn your post into a dating profile, paragraph by paragraph.
  • I have some good friends but they live a long way away which limits my ability to interact with them.
  • I have a couple of good acquaintances but they're not always able to come out to play
  • I don't like this apparent lack of commitment to our relationship
  • If you have a group, maybe you'll invite me to it.
  • Interests
    • Swipe left if organized religion is your thing
    • Swipe left if you're not into working out
    • I like animals, my wife and I have life experience I'd be very glad to share
    • Swipe left if you're into watching sports
  • If you can't match me because of the above, that's OK, I won't be into you.
Just to be clear - I don't have a problem with you expressing these ideas in this way, but personally, as I think you'd gather looking at what I posted, I think there are other ways of looking at 'friendship' that look more organic and less structured.

I'd suggest we go out for a beer sometime and just shoot the ****, but my evenings are genuinely quite busy, but a halfway location might be the fleshpots of Alpharetta.

I totally "get" your complaints about acquaintances who ghost on short notice, but **** happens in peoples' lives and you can see that as a signal that those people aren't people you can rely on. That's fine - you only need a few people you can really rely on in your life (which is one of the criteria for a "true friend").

What I think we're at odds over is how you get to find and cultivate these people.
 
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