I think I understand what you are saying.
Overall stats from similar States are close to the same, regardless of the reasons. However I agree with your reasoning.
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Overall stats from similar States are close to the same, regardless of the reasons. However I agree with your reasoning.
I am not disagreeing with you, either. The CCW family is a small subset of gun owners, and what I am using as a self selected group of gun owners.
And that required training thing in SC (and non-reciprocity) always stuck in my craw, as I had family in SC and traveled frequently to visit.
They do no recognize our permits. Have about two years now.
Last family there passed several years ago, so no help for me.
On the same line of thinking, want to save several hundred bucks? Most insurance companies (USAA, for sure) will offer you a discount if you take a voluntary Safe Driving course. It is all done online, no classroom of skill test involved. Takes less than an hour. Does that training make you any safer? Absolutely not, but it does identify you as a safety conscious driver and less likely to get in an accident than the average driver. If this was not proven by their own stats, the ins companies would not offer the discounts.
Here's a link to what the command staff LEO said would be a good qualifation shoot for armed citizens.
It's the Georgia LEO's shoot for back-up or off-duty firearms.
https://www.gapost.org/pdf_file/BackupWeapon_COF_2017.pdf
i'm not a fan of this because like the official Georgia POST qualification for duty pistols, as it requires the person to shoot from
-- behind a barricade (not allowed at most ranges)
-- shoot from the kneeling position (which you have to get into while the clock is running) and
--you have to shoot with the weak hand only.
It's the Georgia LEO's shoot for back-up or off-duty firearms.
https://www.gapost.org/pdf_file/BackupWeapon_COF_2017.pdf
i'm not a fan of this because like the official Georgia POST qualification for duty pistols, as it requires the person to shoot from
-- behind a barricade (not allowed at most ranges)
-- shoot from the kneeling position (which you have to get into while the clock is running) and
--you have to shoot with the weak hand only.
This weekend I went to an indoor range.
I made it a point to check out the rest of the firing line and see who was shooting what style at what distance and what group sizes they were getting.
All of the pistol shooters, and even some of the AR-15 rifle shooters, were firing from spitting distance --about 20 feet.
A couple of the best ones were getting groups the size of a coffee can at that distance, but most of the others were getting "groups" the size of a trash can lid.
Covering the entire human size silhouette target.
The groups were as wide as the paper --from nose to testicles, and shoulder to shoulder.
As for safety, several people pointed their guns completely sideways (perpendicular to the target) and thus directing the muzzle at the person in the next stall, the next shooting lane, over. At least most of those incidents had a lane divider that might have some ballistic protection. I probably spent no more than four minutes observing the other shooters, but in that short time I did see one lady step back from the firing line and hold her pistol pointing down the firing line, at the heads and chests of every single other person in the range that day.
p.s. this range had hundreds of bullet holes in the ceiling, hundreds of bullet scrapes and marks along the concrete walls, hundreds of scratches and chips taken out of the floor, some only a few feet forward of the firing line.
Some of the lane partitions and shooting tables were also shot up.
Yeah, it seems that we, collectively, are in need of training both ends to marksmanship and basic gun handling and safety .
I made it a point to check out the rest of the firing line and see who was shooting what style at what distance and what group sizes they were getting.
All of the pistol shooters, and even some of the AR-15 rifle shooters, were firing from spitting distance --about 20 feet.
A couple of the best ones were getting groups the size of a coffee can at that distance, but most of the others were getting "groups" the size of a trash can lid.
Covering the entire human size silhouette target.
The groups were as wide as the paper --from nose to testicles, and shoulder to shoulder.
As for safety, several people pointed their guns completely sideways (perpendicular to the target) and thus directing the muzzle at the person in the next stall, the next shooting lane, over. At least most of those incidents had a lane divider that might have some ballistic protection. I probably spent no more than four minutes observing the other shooters, but in that short time I did see one lady step back from the firing line and hold her pistol pointing down the firing line, at the heads and chests of every single other person in the range that day.
p.s. this range had hundreds of bullet holes in the ceiling, hundreds of bullet scrapes and marks along the concrete walls, hundreds of scratches and chips taken out of the floor, some only a few feet forward of the firing line.
Some of the lane partitions and shooting tables were also shot up.
Yeah, it seems that we, collectively, are in need of training both ends to marksmanship and basic gun handling and safety .
5 sec 5 rounds 12ft and all have to be on target center mass. If you cant do that in a controlled environment your likely going to be pretty dangerous in a high tension environment.
