I just checked this thread again, and thanks everyone for the advice! I ended up ordering the Sandman S Tuesday. I don’t think I made a mistake but I kinda wish I would have went with the nomad after seeing all the postive comments about it. I can already tell it won’t be my last can, So maybe a nomad is in my future, along with a rim fire and 45 cal can. I think I got a pretty good deal on it too, it was $750 OTD. That seem like a good price?