New Slide Fire/ Bump Stock Listing Rules

[Fatal_Bert]

Great thinking. Now start looking for people with serious medical conditions of going thru a divorce and lowball the crap out of them; go lower than pawn values, after all you are a business man. Scruples are for others, you are just " helping them out" when they need some cash.

Taking advantage of the ill or someone going through a rough patch is wrong. I think most will agree with that.

Listing a bump Stock at $500 and immediately selling it = two happy traders with no injured parties.

Listing a bumpstock at $1000 and no one buying = no injured parties, just a little wasted bandwidth.

 

[TheJ]

"As these economists pointed out, when we choose one commodity over another, we do not consider the general usefulness of that commodity. We do not, for example, consider the general utility of water—its role in supporting human life—when deciding how much we are willing to exchange for a specific amount of water. True, if we had to choose between all the water in the world and all the diamonds in the world, then we would choose water over diamonds, but rarely are we faced with this all-or-nothing situation. Instead, we confront commodities as they exist in specific quantities, or units, and how much we subjectively value a given unit of a given commodity depends on how we plan to use it.

Suppose we are deciding whether or not to purchase a gallon of water. How much we are willing to pay will be based not on the general usefulness of water but on the contribution that the additional gallon of water will make to satisfying our “marginal” wants. And this, of course, depends on how much water we already have. A man dying of thirst in a desert will value a gallon of water more highly than he would in normal circumstances, because he will use that gallon to sustain his life—rather than using it, say, to wash his car, which is what he might do in circumstances in which water is more plentiful.

Thus economic value ultimately depends not on the general usefulness of a commodity but on the specific usefulness—or marginal utility—of a given unit of that commodity in satisfying our most pressing desires. If water is abundant—that is, if most of our important wants are easily satisfied by the available water—then we will place a relatively low value on each additional unit of water, because that unit will be used to fulfill a want that we consider relatively unimportant. And if diamonds, while greatly prized, are normally scarce, then we will place a relatively high value on each additional unit of diamonds, because that unit will be used to satisfy a want that ranks high on our scale of preferences."

https://www.libertarianism.org/publ...s-economic-calculation-under-socialism-part-1

 

[Discollector]

I didn't get the analogy either

You didn't claim to be making $325 an hour either.

 

[Fatal_Bert]

You didn't claim to be making $325 an hour either.

Only time I've ever made that kind of money was selling bumpstocks.

 

[handloader]

Taking advantage of the ill or someone going through a rough patch is wrong. I think most will agree with that.

Listing a bump Stock at $500 and immediately selling it = two happy traders with no injured parties.

Listing a bumpstock at $1000 and no one buying = no injured parties, just a little wasted bandwidth.

Hopefully our resident IRS agent is tracking this so they can make sure there are no accounting errors in April

 

[Fatal_Bert]

Hopefully our resident IRS agent is tracking this so they can make sure there are no accounting errors in April

 

[handloader]

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No that does not look like the guy that I went to college with. He is much younger.

 

[Discollector]

What “principle”
Supply and demand? I might could see your point if the sellers ghad one thing to do with the demand being higher.
Let me ask you, if the car you are driving is used in the next block buster movie and over night demand triples or more. Would you be violating some mythical “principle” if you sold your car at what someone would pay, no matter how stupid you thing the movie was?
I’ll go ahead and answer: you would sell at the stupid high price some movie buff would be willing to pay. Same principle, supply and demand. When the supply gets low, no matter what the reason, and more people want or need said supply, prices will nessesarily increase. It capitalism, and the American way.

Since I have my own personal feelings, the best way to explain it is with this excerpt from Wikipedia, followed up by own feelings on the subject.

Usury (/ˈjuːʒəri/[1][2]) is, as defined today, the practice of making unethical or immoral monetary loans that unfairly enrich the lender. Originally, usury meant interest of any kind. A loan may be considered usurious because of excessive or abusive interest rates or other factors. Historically in Christian societies, and in many Islamic societies today, charging any interest at all would be considered usury.[3][4][5] Someone who practices usury can be called a usurer, but a more common term in contemporary English is loan shark.

The term may be used in a moral sense—condemning, taking advantage of others' misfortunes—or in a legal sense where interest rates may be regulated by law. Historically, some cultures (e.g., Christianity in much of Medieval Europe, and Islam in many parts of the world today) have regarded charging any interest for loans as sinful.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usury

Now, my personal feeling is that all of you have a Right to make a profit on anything you own. And, in today's society, if you did not charge interest of some kind on a loan, you'd be screwed as inflation and rising prices are a fact of life.

Trying to unfairly enrich yourself does have its moral implications. As a general rule, I'm all about the free market. But, we've got to be realistic. When Obama was president, one could hardly find ammunition in many areas. Lots of people were buying and hoarding ammo by buying from Walmart and then reselling at twice the price they bought at. Legal? Yes. Moral? Easy for you, but the way I saw it, if I owned a firearm and could not keep in practice because some of you were war profiteers then I might not be able to save your butt in a scenario where the excrement interacts with the electric oscillating device. You hoarded up all the ammo.

The great lure of socialism is that you have the haves and the have nots and many times people are haves because they have a better advantage. Case in point: There is a guy wanting to have a whizzing contest with me, claiming he makes $325 an hour. All well and good. The guy who cuts my lawn is a kid with autism. He is not capable of ever making that kind of money.

So, you buy necessities and then charge exorbitant prices for them to the point that a large segment of society cannot afford them. Those people then become thieves, welfare recipients, etc. There is no easy - one size fits all answer. Me personally, I know what I can afford and I will pay a person what I can. OTOH, I'd hate to be in some guy's shoes that needs it, but can't come up with the money.

Finally, there are those pretending they don't know what I'm talking about. They have wished me bad luck, cursed me, etc. because I really DO participate in the free market. When I needed my water heater fixed, I did not care whether someone had a plumber's license, a driver's license, insurance, was bonded, or had ever had a background check in their life. I was willing to take my chances. Yet those who claim to believe in the free market cursed me for not hiring and paying union wages for licensed plumbers; some called me all manner of names accusing me of hiring illegal aliens; other people wished bad things on me and my family - but, I've been making the argument that if I create a job I own the job for years. Nobody really believes that. Otherwise, I would not be telling you about dozens of e mails and phone calls I've gotten from those giving accolades to my critics.

I'm not expecting any of you to agree with me. Where you have a point, I've acknowledged it. My only hope is that you would reconsider what I've said. Do I have the answer? No way. I'm not going to change your minds; you won't change mine so thank you and Godspeed.

 

[handloader]

Only time I've ever made that kind of money was selling bumpstocks.

 

[Fatal_Bert]

Hopefully our resident IRS agent is tracking this so they can make sure there are no accounting errors in April

No that does not look like the guy that I went to college with. He is much younger.

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Sicking the IRS on people you don't agree with, liberal tactics 101