Pediatrician questions

[Hasselhoss]

If you are worried about a defacto database, it is infinitely easier for them to track and obtain your info from your participation on a website such as this than do obtain your legally protected private medical records.

I am still amazed that so many of y'all would be offended that a doctor would remind you not to keep a loaded weapon accessible to young children. I'm not recording a thing about gun ownership, we'll probably waste 5 minutes talking guns afterwards, and in many cases if you are concealed carrying we'll compare our carry pieces.

I apologize if my statements came across as arrogant. That was not my intent.

The clerk at the Circle K always does the same thing. Kinda weirds me out.

 

[rtross]

If you are worried about a defacto database, it is infinitely easier for them to track and obtain your info from your participation on a website such as this than do obtain your legally protected private medical records.

I am still amazed that so many of y'all would be offended that a doctor would remind you not to keep a loaded weapon accessible to young children. I'm not recording a thing about gun ownership, we'll probably waste 5 minutes talking guns afterwards, and in many cases if you are concealed carrying we'll compare our carry pieces.

I apologize if my statements came across as arrogant. That was not my intent.

I have to agree with my fellow MD. I do not routinely ask questions like those (I am a surgeon), but I understand why family medicine physicians might do so. I honestly think that most of the physicians doing this are simply genuinely concerned about their patients. I also believe there is no intent (on the physician's part) to initiate a database. However, the government may have other intentions

Personally, I was shocked at how many people attacked the family medicine physicians and their comments. Certainly the ugliest comments are not warranted. IMHO physicians are mostly just like plumbers, salesman, maintenance workers, etc. I believe most of all of us are honest and just try to do our jobs in a way that helps those that have come to us for help. I really don't understand the hostility.

I've said it; fire me up!

 

[tv_racin_fan]

I have to agree with my fellow MD. I do not routinely ask questions like those (I am a surgeon), but I understand why family medicine physicians might do so. I honestly think that most of the physicians doing this are simply genuinely concerned about their patients. I also believe there is no intent (on the physician's part) to initiate a database. However, the government may have other intentions

Personally, I was shocked at how many people attacked the family medicine physicians and their comments. Certainly the ugliest comments are not warranted. IMHO physicians are mostly just like plumbers, salesman, maintenance workers, etc. I believe most of all of us are honest and just try to do our jobs in a way that helps those that have come to us for help. I really don't understand the hostility.

I've said it; fire me up!

So wait the HVAC man that was here a couple weeks back should have been talking to me about my prostate gland? Maybe he should have done a colonoscopy while he was here? Perhaps the plumber ought to be prescribing an anti depressant while he replaces the dripping faucet?

 

[jcountry]

If you are worried about a defacto database, it is infinitely easier for them to track and obtain your info from your participation on a website such as this than do obtain your legally protected private medical records.

I am still amazed that so many of y'all would be offended that a doctor would remind you not to keep a loaded weapon accessible to young children. I'm not recording a thing about gun ownership, we'll probably waste 5 minutes talking guns afterwards, and in many cases if you are concealed carrying we'll compare our carry pieces.

I apologize if my statements came across as arrogant. That was not my intent.

I think what most people are worried about is what could happen if this data goes to the CDC.

I know in the past, the CDC has made some moves toward getting gun violence declared a heath "epidemic."

There is some question as to how much power they would have to do anything about this "epidemic," but I think most people agree that it would be better for them to not have any individually identifiable info in the first place. There is just no legitimate reason for anyone to have a database which could be used to identify which homes have guns. That will be abused by some crazy ass politicians sooner or later.

It is good to know that you are pro-gun, but I do agree with many here that the CDC doesn't need info on which houses have guns. They can easily collect anything they need when they compare the numbers of guns which are sold to the number of people in a population, and the number of gun-related injuries. Which specific families have guns seems completely irrelevant to any research they could be doing.

 

[captdave77]

I have to agree with my fellow MD. I do not routinely ask questions like those (I am a surgeon), but I understand why family medicine physicians might do so. I honestly think that most of the physicians doing this are simply genuinely concerned about their patients. I also believe there is no intent (on the physician's part) to initiate a database. However, the government may have other intentions

Personally, I was shocked at how many people attacked the family medicine physicians and their comments. Certainly the ugliest comments are not warranted. IMHO physicians are mostly just like plumbers, salesman, maintenance workers, etc. I believe most of all of us are honest and just try to do our jobs in a way that helps those that have come to us for help. I really don't understand the hostility.

I've said it; fire me up!

Th road to hell is paved with good intentions. You are right, physicians are just like other professions and you would not appreciate those kind of questions from your plumber. The OP's kid was in for a sports physical. The customer is asking the provider to decide whether his child is healthy enough to play a sport. Just do your job. Is is too hard to just do what the customer asks?

How many times are the firearms questions answered "Yeah I have guns. I keep them loaded in the kid's playroom right next to the cocaine."?

 

[StateLine]

Perhaps we should be asking doctors why they pass out psychotropic meds like candy. Perhaps we should be asking doctors about the kickbacks they receive from big pharma for prescribing those drugs. Perhaps we should be asking doctors if they feel responsible for incidents like Aurora or Sandy Hook or the thousands of other less publicized shooting incidents committed by mentally unstable individuals pumped full of psychosis-inducing prescription drugs..

 

[jcountry]

Here is something pretty interesting about the kids who shot up schools-and which drugs they were on:

http://www.cchrint.org/school-shooters/

and another one:

http://beforeitsnews.com/health/201...-all-linked-to-psychiatric-drugs-2464466.html

 

[graybeard]

I have to agree with my fellow MD. I do not routinely ask questions like those (I am a surgeon), but I understand why family medicine physicians might do so. I honestly think that most of the physicians doing this are simply genuinely concerned about their patients. I also believe there is no intent (on the physician's part) to initiate a database. However, the government may have other intentions

Personally, I was shocked at how many people attacked the family medicine physicians and their comments. Certainly the ugliest comments are not warranted. IMHO physicians are mostly just like plumbers, salesman, maintenance workers, etc. I believe most of all of us are honest and just try to do our jobs in a way that helps those that have come to us for help. I really don't understand the hostility.

I've said it; fire me up!

OK, see if this makes any sense to you.

I'm a Christian. I truly believe it's in your long term best interest for you to be a Christian too.

Would you not consider it a bit intrusive if I come in your office and demand to know your religious beliefs?

I find it astonishing that supposedly highly educated individuals cannot grasp the simple concept of "none of your damn business"!

There must be something to the God complex that others have referenced.

Seriously docs, do what I pay you to do and keep your nosey-ass questions to yourself. If you're bored, consider a part time job.

Why is that hard to understand? Stick to your job as a human body mechanic and stay out of my stuff!

 

[mirage243]

My family doctor would have tried to get my kids to trade some of daddy's guns to him.

 

[MCG DAWG]

Actually sir it is a HUGE deal unless the guy who works on my kid also has the credentials needed to explain firearm safety to me. I do not go to the doctor for automotive advice, I talk to a mechanic for that. I do not go to the doctor for financial advice, I speak to a financial advisor. I do not go to a doctor for firearm security advice, I speak to a firearms security expert.

Care to share your firearms training credentials with the forum? NRA certified perhaps?

As soon as you post up you medical training credentials, your trauma life support credentials, etc I'll post up my "firearm training credentials". You're taking quite a leap in telling me how to practice medicine. I'd wager I've had much more experience with firearms and firearm safety than you've had with medical training, but I could be wrong.

I'm not sure extra training is needed to properly advise someone to keep loaded guns where children can't access them. I'm not a Federal Transportation Board Safety Inspector but I advise people all the time to wear their seatbelts and to use child seats. Is that bad advice? Does it piss you off if I suggest it to you? Do you tell the doctor "it's none of your damn business!!" when he or she asks about your child's use of appropriate seating in a car?

As a physician I'm legally and ethically bound to cover a wide variety of preventative health topics at yearly physicals for people of all ages. Mentioning gun safety is simply part of that. I'm not recording if you have guns, not putting you in a database, and I'm not reporting you to the government. Most likely if I know you enjoy guns and shooting we'll spend a good bit of time talking about them, discuss the best local shops, and I'll pass along any good ammo buys I've come across. I have those conversations several times a week.

The beauty of a free market economy is if your child comes to my office and you are offended or upset by me asking questions and offering advice to help your child live a safer/healthier life then you are free to go to another physician. That's your choice and one you can freely make.