Pediatrician questions

[captdave77]

Calm down on the Doc. Most of the members here have been around guns a long time, know the dangers, and are safe in their own way. Go to any gun range and you'll see that many if not most gun owners aren't in the same class. I'm fine with a doctor asking my kids about guns. I'll be sitting right there so I'll take over from there. For the gun waiving idiot owners, hopefully they'll learn something.

I'm absolutely against a doctor writing down anything related to gun ownership. Asking and educating is fine.

It falls under the heading of "none of your damn business". I will ask my doctor for gun advice just as soon as I go to the gun store for my prescriptions.

 

[graybeard]

It falls under the heading of "none of your damn business". I will ask my doctor for gun advice just as soon as I go to the gun store for my prescriptions.

Well said indeed!

 

[zesty]

Were you unaware that doctors typically write things down/dictate after the patient encounter is over ?

You're welcome to calm down on the doc if you so choose. Me, I'm into personal privacy. I mind my own business and demand the same from any service worker I employ to do a job.

Like I posted earlier, it's currently illegal for them to write anything down about gun ownership. If my kid was asked about guns, the conversation would be stopped there. I'm with you on that.

Personally, I think that if you're not smart enough to stop that conversation, you're probably in the 'uneducated gun owner' category and a reminder to not keep your 45 loaded in the playroom isn't a bad idea. Maybe I'm just pessimistic about gun owners because I shoot at Bullseye, lol.

 

[04redmach1]

I think a none of your damn business was needed.

 

[SMLEshooter]

They're not supposed to keep records of this just like the xray machines at the airport weren't supposed to store images..........

The problem is that as soon as you say none of your business, the doc knows you have them....

It's the morons who don't have firearms that typically don't object to truthfully answering the questions... so we can assume that only the people that object to the questions have the weapons and so a de facto database is created.

They may not know what you have, but they sure as **** know you've got something...

 

[MCG DAWG]

They're not supposed to keep records of this just like the xray machines at the airport weren't supposed to store images..........

The problem is that as soon as you say none of your business, the doc knows you have them....

It's the morons who don't have firearms that typically don't object to truthfully answering the questions... so we can assume that only the people that object to the questions have the weapons and so a de facto database is created.

They may not know what you have, but they sure as **** know you've got something...

If you are worried about a defacto database, it is infinitely easier for them to track and obtain your info from your participation on a website such as this than do obtain your legally protected private medical records.

I am still amazed that so many of y'all would be offended that a doctor would remind you not to keep a loaded weapon accessible to young children. I'm not recording a thing about gun ownership, we'll probably waste 5 minutes talking guns afterwards, and in many cases if you are concealed carrying we'll compare our carry pieces.

I apologize if my statements came across as arrogant. That was not my intent.

 

[rbranton]

I took my tween-age daughter to the Dr for her sports participation physical. Everything was finished.... then the questions started.....

1) Do you always wear a seatbelt in the car?
Answer: yes
2) Do you always wear a helmet when riding a bike?
Answer: if I'm jumping or on the road
DR: "you Always need a helmet anytime you ride anything"
3) Do you have a trampoline?
Answer: Yes
Doctor: "make sure you wear a helmet when jumping and do not try risky moves like flips or cartwheels"
4) Do your parents keep firearms in the house?
Answer: "Why are you asking me these questions?"
Doctor: "We just want make sure you are being safe."
At this point I was going to intervene but my daughter rolled her eyes and said "I don't see what any of this has to do with me running track"
The doctor looked at me and I said "Sorry, I agree with her"
Doctor: "We'll, just make sure they are locked up and that the ammunition is stored in another room.
My daughter said, "I have some guns too and I'm a pretty good shot".
The doctor asked her if she kept the gun in her room and I said "That's about enough of this. Are we done here?"
Doctor: "Almost"
5) Do you have a good relationship with your parents? Would you like to speak to me alone without them in the room?
"Yes we have a great relationship and no thank you".

After that the doctor signed the form and we left.

Anyone else had their child questioned about guns by their doctor?

Wow... I think if I were in this situation I would have probably busted a blood vessel from the rate my blood pressure would rise in an instant. A Dr. asking about gun safety/location etc... seems like that is a little intrusive and unrelated to why you are there in the first place.

 

[tv_racin_fan]

My job is not only to treat an acute injury like you describe above but to also identify possible dangers to your children prior to them causing a problem. Usually these will be done at a yearly physical. I'll ask you to ensure they are appropriately restrained in an age and weight appropriate car seat. I'll ask that they always wear a helmet on a bicycle, four wheeler, etc. And yes I'll remind you to keep your guns and ammo appropriately locked up if young children are present. If you don't like being asked about things that make your child safer, don't take them to the doctor.

The guy that works on your car will remind you to have your oil changed. The guy who works on your kid will remind you not to keep a loaded .45 on the coffee table. It's really not that big of a deal.

Actually sir it is a HUGE deal unless the guy who works on my kid also has the credentials needed to explain firearm safety to me. I do not go to the doctor for automotive advice, I talk to a mechanic for that. I do not go to the doctor for financial advice, I speak to a financial advisor. I do not go to a doctor for firearm security advice, I speak to a firearms security expert.

Care to share your firearms training credentials with the forum? NRA certified perhaps?

 

[graybeard]

If you are worried about a defacto database, it is infinitely easier for them to track and obtain your info from your participation on a website such as this than do obtain your legally protected private medical records.

I am still amazed that so many of y'all would be offended that a doctor would remind you not to keep a loaded weapon accessible to young children. I'm not recording a thing about gun ownership, we'll probably waste 5 minutes talking guns afterwards, and in many cases if you are concealed carrying we'll compare our carry pieces.

I apologize if my statements came across as arrogant. That was not my intent.

And I'm amazed you don't see the condescension on your part. It's just not disease related and therefore none of your damn business. Why would you presume to jump to the conclusion I don't know what I'm doing? And what's next? Would you care to lecture me on power tool safety? What's the difference Doc?

You may have gone to school longer than me but it doesn't mean you're smarter than me and it certainly doesn't give you the right to butt in to my non-medical related affairs.

The M.D. designation does not also make you Supreme Keeper of the Universe.

Get a clue and butt the hell out.

 

[jcountry]

This sort of crap goes all the way back to the Clintons.

It is a way they try to establish a national gun registration without calling it a "registration." Total B.S.

Boortz talked about this kind of crap. The current administration is trying to require all doctors to ask all patients about gun ownership.

I like Boortz response: He said that if any DR. asks him whether he owns a gun, he would say "Sure thing-I got one right here in my pants-wanna see it?"