Absolutely not!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Question for you Constitutionalists out there
- Thread starter jsquared
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Thats a great quote when dealing with a revolutionary mindset but from one of lawful purpose the ideas behind the BoR were effectively squashed with free speech zones, the NFA, the Patriot Act, the NDAA, federal control of interstate commerce, and the opinions of supreme courts gone by. I am by no means an expert, and at a root level I agree that the foundation of the BoR (and indeed the country) live within anyone willing to live (and die) under those pretenses, realistically many elements of the BoR itself would not hold up in court these days.
I think prohibition is probably the perfect example, although it didnt touch the BoR it was still widely ignored despite a 3/4 vote.
Dude. That is not mindful of history. The USA changed the constitution to give women the right to vote, to abolish slavery .... And yes, it was the new and improved constitution. Notwithstanding this, the hypothetical is silly and pointless.
How so? Looking back, doesnt the 18th amendment seem impossibly silly?
I don't recall the slavery amendment in the bill of rights? Which of the ten was it? The amendments you speak of added additional protections or rights not included in the first ten. They did not remove rights.
There was no Constitutional right to vote. That was a State issue. Slavery was the 14th amendment after the war of Northern aggression and it was ratified by military districts that were no longer States.
The very idea that one part of the Constitution could be altered in such a manor as to put one section at odds with another is beyond the scope of authority written into the document.
removing or modifying the 1st 10 is far different than additional amendments to expand freedoms.
This thread demonstrates the cancer by which America has been dieing for a very long time.
The Bill of Rights does not grant freedoms to the American people. It simply recognizes those that the Constitution admits every person has naturally. The government does not grant US rights. WE grant the government limited power. That is what the Founding Fathers meant the Constitution to be. The fact that even in a group as conservative and freedom minded as this one this basic premiss has been lost is just discouraging as hell.
" Rightful liberty is unobstructed action according to our will within limits drawn around us by the equal rights of others. I do not add 'within the limits of the law,' because law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the rights of the individual."
Thomas Jefferson
This quote sums up the intent of the Constitution better than any other. In modern language this means, "Do whatever you want as long as it does not interfere with another person's ability to do the same."
The Bill of Rights does not grant freedoms to the American people. It simply recognizes those that the Constitution admits every person has naturally. The government does not grant US rights. WE grant the government limited power. That is what the Founding Fathers meant the Constitution to be. The fact that even in a group as conservative and freedom minded as this one this basic premiss has been lost is just discouraging as hell.
" Rightful liberty is unobstructed action according to our will within limits drawn around us by the equal rights of others. I do not add 'within the limits of the law,' because law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the rights of the individual."
Thomas Jefferson
This quote sums up the intent of the Constitution better than any other. In modern language this means, "Do whatever you want as long as it does not interfere with another person's ability to do the same."
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Amen!
