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Red Flag laws.

Thread in 'Law & Order' started by FatAlbert, Aug 5, 2019.

No crime committed, take the guns anyway?

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  1. Ken Ford

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    Nope, due process first and foremost.
     
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    That law is only for instances of immediate threat to themselves or others. Doesn’t do squat for long term. Also doesn’t take into account who pays for it. Family can’t, and the hospitals don’t have incentive to keep them as they don’t get payed for this service.
    That is why we need new laws that work, just gonna be hard to work out a process that most people like.
     
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    I'll bet any lawyer who advocates these red flag laws would still take money from a defendant and claim to represent them honestly. I suppose some lawyers like more laws because they believe it will create more business for them. Especially a lawyer who has his own booklet on the subject at hand. I can only speak for myself, but I know who I won't be calling if I ever get flagged.
     
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    States don’t pay for this anymore, that’s what has to change.
     
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    Now there you go being pesky, talking all that constitution ****.

    So far the vote tally has 1 vote for yes, tread on them, and 71 votes for no. Anybody want to take a wild guess as to who voted yes?
     
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    Under current law, that person has to adjudicated insane... that’s is different from unstable but able to take care of themselves.
    I dealt with this as LE for a long while. In its current form the law does not work. Probably could be expanded to fix it, but it’s a joke of a law now.
    And remember the law says “up to 72 hours” that usually equates to about 1.5 hours before LE is getting a call from the hospital and we would have to return the subject home.
    Where soon enough we get another call, usually resulting in an arrest that is too weak to stand up, but calms the situation down enough too keep the family safe for a week or so...
     
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    No and doing so would be a slippery slope to a call out.
     
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    I wasnt being serious, but point well taken.
     
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    Give government a hammer, and to them, everything looks like a nail.
    Should have a third check in the poll "not only no, but hell no"
     
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    Hello, I'm Dr. Quresh Z Bandukwala, MD. I will be assessing you today for mental illness. Do you love your mother?

    Red flag is our white flag. Give in and give up.
     
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