River Bend Banned the Sig P320

[KDM2]

I feel like the PT1911 is one of the best budget 1911's on the market to upgrade and makes a fine 1911 after mods are done. You don't know how much crap I get for that belief. To here someone else support a Taurus so confidently is a welcome surprise.

As far as the P320 I have heard all the hoopla but everyone is sure to squeeze out a turd every now and then. That's just life. 🤪

Eh, PT92 is kind of a different animal, counting on the mfg. date.....similar story on 'Taurus' as a brand, sometimes reflecting solid Brazilian Military Pistols, sometimes, under that brand, garbage.

The PT1911s that came into the US in the mid 2000s with the Heine straight eight sights the gun writers were raving on are not the PT1911s with Metal injection molded bullsh*t internals of later imports.

On the PT92, which I like, If I had to choose a Beretta 92, with modern Mec-gar mags,: The Brazilians adopted the Beretta 92 as their official military service pistol in 1974, under an import substitution industrialization scheme in the 70s, where the factories had to be in Brazil, adopted it before the US military by nearly 10 years.


So the PT92s were made on Beretta spec tooling/machining, with that little frame safety, for the most part.

Superior design, those early PT92s, to the Berettas with solid components, in that it has a real 5" BBL & a Frame Safety.

Here's a PT92 from a Libyan IRA arms Cache in the 1980s: that is a serious pistol. The MIM modern ones, not so much

 

[atljetmech]

For anyone that doesn't get or read the monthly newsletter from River Bend Gun Club. The board of directors has banned the Sig P320 and all it's variants from use on club property. This includes use during matches and casual shooting. Just thought I'd let everybody know.

MESSAGE FROM THE CHIEF RANGE OFFICER
Sig Sauer P320 / M18 / M17
Due to ongoing safety concerns involving unintended discharges reported with this model, effective
immediately, the use of the Sig Sauer P320 / M18 /M17 and all its variants are banned from use on
River Bend Gun Club property. The goal of this decision by the Board of Directors is the safety of our
members, staff and guests. While we have no direct knowledge of the potential defect of this
firearm, the volume of ranges, organizations and military units declaring a problem has made it too
visible to deny. We will re-evaluate the decision in the future as more credible information comes in.
Thank you for your cooperation and patience.

Off topic but you being a member might know.
Is RBGC for sale?

 

[greg vess]

Eh, PT92 is kind of a different animal, counting on the mfg. date.....similar story on 'Taurus' as a brand, sometimes reflecting solid Brazilian Military Pistols, sometimes, under that brand, garbage.

The PT1911s that came into the US in the mid 2000s with the Heine straight eight sights the gun writers were raving on are not the PT1911s with Metal injection molded bullsh*t internals of later imports.

On the PT92, which I like, If I had to choose a Beretta 92, with modern Mec-gar mags,: The Brazilians adopted the Beretta 92 as their official military service pistol in 1974, under an import substitution industrialization scheme in the 70s, where the factories had to be in Brazil, adopted it before the US military by nearly 10 years.


So the PT92s were made on Beretta spec tooling/machining, with that little frame safety, for the most part.

Superior design, those early PT92s, to the Berettas with solid components, in that it has a real 5" BBL & a Frame Safety.

Here's a PT92 from a Libyan IRA arms Cache in the 1980s: that is a serious pistol. The MIM modern ones, not so much


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Those internal parts are the mods I am talking about replacing with WC parts. I try to buy the PT 1911's of the 90's. I currently have a 1994 model. It turned out to be a sweet gun after I finished modifying it. All the internals were replaced with Bullet Proof parts from Wilson Combat. Sometimes I use Ed Brown part as well. Just depends a sale if I find one. It's just the main exterior large hard parts that remain after I am done. People don't seem to grasp that no matter how you explain it.

 

[KDM2]

Those internal parts are the mods I am talking about replacing with WC parts. I try to buy the PT 1911's of the 90's. I currently have a 1994 model. It turned out to be a sweet gun after I finished modifying it. All the internals were replaced with Bullet Proof parts from Wilson Combat. Sometimes I use Ed Brown part as well. Just depends a sale if I find one. It's just the main exterior large hard parts that remain after I am done. People don't seem to grasp that no matter how you explain it.

The Taurus PT1911 was introduced to the U.S. market in the Autumn of 2005, no?

 

[KDM2]

Those internal parts are the mods I am talking about replacing with WC parts. I try to buy the PT 1911's of the 90's. I currently have a 1994 model. It turned out to be a sweet gun after I finished modifying it. All the internals were replaced with Bullet Proof parts from Wilson Combat. Sometimes I use Ed Brown part as well. Just depends a sale if I find one. It's just the main exterior large hard parts that remain after I am done. People don't seem to grasp that no matter how you explain it.

I think We need a new thread for Taurus PT1911/PT92 Snobs.

For example, what mods work, where Ed brown/Wilson internals on an 05" PT1911 produce a world-class pistol.

Plus, I bet we are all actually pretty f*cking good at pistol shooting.

& we steer clear of 'sig' in that it isn't west German Sig Sauer, just a brand you can slap on sh*t.

I say G17 or G19 for serious work

 

[Jambo]

Eh, PT92 is kind of a different animal, counting on the mfg. date.....similar story on 'Taurus' as a brand, sometimes reflecting solid Brazilian Military Pistols, sometimes, under that brand, garbage.

The PT1911s that came into the US in the mid 2000s with the Heine straight eight sights the gun writers were raving on are not the PT1911s with Metal injection molded bullsh*t internals of later imports.

On the PT92, which I like, If I had to choose a Beretta 92, with modern Mec-gar mags,: The Brazilians adopted the Beretta 92 as their official military service pistol in 1974, under an import substitution industrialization scheme in the 70s, where the factories had to be in Brazil, adopted it before the US military by nearly 10 years.


So the PT92s were made on Beretta spec tooling/machining, with that little frame safety, for the most part.

Superior design, those early PT92s, to the Berettas with solid components, in that it has a real 5" BBL & a Frame Safety.

Here's a PT92 from a Libyan IRA arms Cache in the 1980s: that is a serious pistol. The MIM modern ones, not so much


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I have a buddy who had a PT92 made in 1990 - The slide broke after about 1,000 rounds.

 

[KDM2]

I have a buddy who had a PT92 made in 1990 - The slide broke after about 1,000 rounds.

Interesting.

Similar lore on the Beretta

Now, I would have expected at least 50 out of a Taurus, really a ditch piece. 1000 is impressive.

Just kidding.

Tell me more on your buddy, was the lifetime warranty activated? Did he get a refund or at least a new slide? injuries, I hope not?

 

[drc302]

Off topic but you being a member might know.
Is RBGC for sale?

I dont think RB is for sale. I did hear that South River is in the block to a real estate developer. I heard part of a conversation about the potential 7 figure haz mat clean up cost.

Back to the thread
I own 3 320s one original polimer and 2 metal frame Legons.
My understanding in the acidental discharge prob is the sear alignment from diminisional instability of the polimer frames.
I wish Sig would at least declare some sort of clarification, they shoot great and I hate that I've had to shelve them.
If this is incorrect I would love any additional info.

 

[Jambo]

Interesting.

Similar lore on the Beretta

Now, I would have expected at least 50 out of a Taurus, really a ditch piece. 1000 is impressive.

Just kidding.

Tell me more on your buddy, was the lifetime warranty activated? Did he get a refund or at least a new slide? injuries, I hope not?

He was trying to sell it, and had a potential buyer shooting it when it broke. Both sides of the slide failed, it literally became two pieces. No drama, the shooter fired it, then said "that doesn't look right" and the slide was broken. The buyer declined to purchase it.

I'm not sure if he tried to warranty it or not.

 

[StampsInk9mm]

I feel like the PT1911 is one of the best budget 1911's on the market to upgrade and makes a fine 1911 after mods are done. You don't know how much crap I get for that belief. To here someone else support a Taurus so confidently is a welcome surprise.

As far as the P320 I have heard all the hoopla but everyone is sure to squeeze out a turd every now and then. That's just life. 🤪

Hey, I love that all black pt1911 !!! I'll take one of those over that Kimber LW Ghost I had any day of the week! Never had a jam,fail to feed etc like that Kimber!