Maybe not, but it was still bull****. on par with suing the city because you tripped and smacked your skull on the concrete that was way harder than it should have been...That actually wasn't as frivolous as you might think.
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Maybe not, but it was still bull****. on par with suing the city because you tripped and smacked your skull on the concrete that was way harder than it should have been...That actually wasn't as frivolous as you might think.
Thank you. Lots of people point to this case as the 'frivolous standard" but it was in fact a sound case that shined the light on the negligence of McD's. People who say "she should have known it was hot" are only half right. I'm sure she was aware it was hot but scalding hot? No need to pour plasma in a cup and serve it.That actually wasn't as frivolous as you might think. It was to the point of negligence
The coffee was not just “hot,” but dangerously hot. McDonald’s corporate policy was to serve it at a temperature that could cause serious burns in seconds. Mrs. Liebeck’s injuries were far from frivolous. She was wearing sweatpants that absorbed the coffee and kept it against her skin. She suffered third-degree burns (the most serious kind) and required skin grafts on her inner thighs and elsewhere.
Liebeck’s case was far from an isolated event. McDonald’s had received more than 700 previous reports of injury from its coffee, including reports of third-degree burns, and had paid settlements in some cases.
https://www.caoc.org/?pg=facts
Serious question, hopefully not to derail my own thread too much lol.
How hot does coffee or any other liquid have to be to cause 3rd degree burns? I would think if the coffee was kept that hot, the coffee itself would smell/taste burnt and not be fit for consumption?
Coffee is often prepared at about 194 to 205 degrees Fahrenheit. It's best served at about 160-175 degrees f. In any case, while the coffee may have been served too hot for a moron or disabled person to handle, who bears responsibility? I have little sympathy from her. If she ordered an ice cold beverage and was served scalding coffee, that's one thing. Ordering a freshly prepared cup of coffee or hot pizza and then burning yourself with it because you are a clutz or can't give it a minute to cool? That makes you a moron.
I think it has more to do with the length of time it's against the skin's surface than the temp.
I've had molten lead hit my skin but sweat gassed off and the lead wasn't in contact for more than a nanosecond. 700 degrees and no burn. On the the other hand, I've cooked pizza in my own oven where I've set the temp and knew it to be hot but since I was a hungry moron I popped a bite in my mouth and promptly blistered the **** out of it. Maybe I should sue the pizza company since there was no warning to not try to eat 425 degree pizza on the box.