Saudi Terriost Purchased Glock Legally

[Gunanddoglover]

So when a Muslim shoots a few people now we think background checks would have prevented it

You're a smart ass, common sense gun laws would have prevented it.

 

[Edog537]

Yea... and there were cool with the Saudi’s..?

There was no such thing as "Saudia Arabia" at that time. It was just a vast wasteland full of the scourge of humanity.....oh wait, still is.

 

[gh1950]

However, you can't say the the right to bear and keep arms is a natural (God given) birth given right, unless you're X, Y, Z or a non US citizen.

Yes you can,

There is a case going to SCOTUS right now on this very issue.

 

[gh1950]

ummm...no? the bill of rights was AFTER the constitution was ratified by the states...after the continental congress...we had already whipped some British ass.

You're getting closer.

The Bill of Rights was created and proposed to get enough states to ratify the Constitution. There were many states, including Georgia, who were concerned that the originally proposed Constitution did not clearly limit the powers of the federal government, so the Bill of Rights was drafted to address these concerns.

 

[BIKER13]

You're getting closer.

The Bill of Rights was created and proposed to get enough states to ratify the Constitution. There were many states, including Georgia, who were concerned that the originally proposed Constitution did not clearly limit the powers of the federal government, so the Bill of Rights was drafted to address these concerns.

did either clarify the rights of foreigners on US soil?

 

[gh1950]

did either clarify the rights of foreigners on US soil?

The issue wasn't specifically addressed. You have to remember that the Bill of Rights did not apply to the States until after the Civil War, and the adoption of the 14th Amendment. By and large aliens were given the rights of American citizens if there were on American soil.

One interesting case is the Amisted incident where the central issue was whether kidnapped slaves on the high seas were subject to American law.

 

[CTS Tactical]

You're getting closer.

The Bill of Rights was created and proposed to get enough states to ratify the Constitution. There were many states, including Georgia, who were concerned that the originally proposed Constitution did not clearly limit the powers of the federal government, so the Bill of Rights was drafted to address these concerns.

I don't understand your reasoning here. The Constitution was ratified on June 21 1788 when New Hampshire became the 9th of the 13 states to ratify it. It only required two thirds. The bill of right was proposed to congress on September 25th, 1789, a full 15 months later and was not ratified until Dec 1791.

 

[gh1950]

I don't understand your reasoning here. The Constitution was ratified on June 21 1788 when New Hampshire became the 9th of the 13 states to ratify it. It only required two thirds. The bill of right was proposed to congress on September 25th, 1789, a full 15 months later and was not ratified until Dec 1791.

Concerns about the limitation of the powers of the Federal government (Anti-federalists) opposed the ratification the the Constitution because those limitations were not specifically stated, The ratification discussion and subsequent ratification of the Constitution was premised on the promise that the perceived deficiencies would be remedied. The Constitution was ratified on June 21, 1788 but the drafting on the Bill of Rights was already well underway in the Senate.

The Senate took until Sept. 25, 1789 to adopt the final version of the 12 Amendments that comprised the first version of the Bill of Rights. If the Senate had not recognized the need to address these issues in the 1787-1788 debates, and assured the states that the issues would be addressed, the Constitution would have not been so timely ratified. It was important that a more efficient form of government be quickly adopted to address the serious deficiencies in the Articles of Confederation.

The ratification of the Constitution by several states was expressly conditioned on the adoption of a Bill of Rights, so while the Constitution was ratified, it was a conditional ratification.

 

[CTS Tactical]

Concerns about the limitation of the powers of the Federal government (Anti-federalists) opposed the ratification the the Constitution because those limitations were not specifically stated, The ratification discussion and subsequent ratification of the Constitution was premised on the promise that the perceived deficiencies would be remedied. The Constitution was ratified on June 21, 1788 but the drafting on the Bill of Rights was already well underway in the Senate.

The Senate took until Sept. 25, 1789 to adopt the final version of the 12 Amendments that comprised the first version of the Bill of Rights. If the Senate had not recognized the need to address these issues in the 1787-1788 debates, and assured the states that the issues would be addressed, the Constitution would have not been so timely ratified. It was important that a more efficient form of government be quickly adopted to address the serious deficiencies in the Articles of Confederation.

Thanks. That does help bring it all back to mind. Been a few years.

 

[chucklenut]

When the 2nd Amendment was written, they were not American. They were under british rule.

uhhhhhhhh no, articles of confederation came years before constitution if i remember correctly