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Shotguns still suck for Self Defense.

Bear44

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I know, this has come up before, but never had a dedicated thread.

Just watched "John Wick 2" again and it reminded me of this fact. They are slow, low capacity and a PITA to reload. The only positive they have (a big pattern to help clear a room) is a complete myth.

Maybe if the target is between 20 and 35 yards there is some advantage, but other than that they are crap. Everyone should just sell their SD shotguns and get a real weapon for SD/HD. A carbine rifle.
 
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Ive always said people put WAY to much stock in a shotgun for HD.
From the whole "just rack it and they'll run" to birdshot is for low penetration, to just point it down the hall and go to town.
While they do have some advantages over rifles and handguns, I'd take one of those two over the street howitzer any day for the reasons enumerated above
 
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