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Should parents be jailed if their children have access to their firearms and use them in a shooting?
- Thread starter Kman
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Dear lord the "what if" brigade is out in force on this one. All these hypotheticals which do not apply to this highly isolated outlier of an instance. Every single alternative example given does not contain one or many of the details that make this case unique. This is not a broad brush-stroke situation.
Reminds me of my grandfather when I'd hit him with "what if"
"If bullfrogs had shotguns there'd be a lot less water moccasins"
This does not set legal precedence the same way these folks want to hold manufacturers responsible for how someone uses their product(s). This is a case where someone deliberately and knowingly enabled and equipped someone with something that they never could have been able to acquire legally, to do something that was easily foreseeable and fatally destructive.
Very narrow, very specific, and will still have to be proven in court, regardless.
Reminds me of my grandfather when I'd hit him with "what if"
"If bullfrogs had shotguns there'd be a lot less water moccasins"
This does not set legal precedence the same way these folks want to hold manufacturers responsible for how someone uses their product(s). This is a case where someone deliberately and knowingly enabled and equipped someone with something that they never could have been able to acquire legally, to do something that was easily foreseeable and fatally destructive.
Very narrow, very specific, and will still have to be proven in court, regardless.
I don’t think that’s the issue. We know the dad did that. I have an issue with the charges. He’s being charged with murder. I could possibly understand lesser charges but murder is ridiculous. I’m not a lawyer so I don’t know what lesser charges would look like.
Often they will charge with the more severe crimes figuring either a plea deal or the jury can find guilty of a lesser charge. I am no lawyer either but I did watch Law and Order a few times.
Second degree/involuntary manslaughter from what I can tell. Which can be a killing due to gross negligence.
I would argue that this could be considered such.
Similar charges have been put upon individuals who knew their vehicle had bad brakes, and as a direct and provable result, someone other than the guilty party was killed.
Colin Gray, 54, is facing four charges of involuntary manslaughter, two counts of second-degree murder and eight of cruelty to children.
look outs and drivers in felony's get charged with murder all the time, even if they didnt know they were going to kill someone.
im sure there are plenty of other cases where someone supplied a murder weapon and got charged over it.
Even if the kid was right in the head, which he clearly wasn’t, if you can either pay rent or buy your kid a gun (or yourself for that matter), pay the rent. With the lifetime of poor parenting he had it is no wonder this kid was messed up. Just sad that 4 innocent people had to pay for the poor decisions and idiocy of others.
I’ve kept mine locked up since my GrandBoy started crawling. Before that my girls were old enough and had good gun safety practices by the time I got deep into the gun & knife & other blackhole .
Different kids have different ages of maturity. I’m waiting & watching and it won’t be a couple years before my GrandBoy graduates from nerf and air guns. Getting them off the iPads and such and getting them outside is the hardest part, but the beginning of wonderful things when they finally See it for what it is.
