Yep just looking for an old beater , just something I can throw on my hip that will keep us safe . No safe queen needed , scratches scuffs rust hell I don't care as long as it fires and won't fail ! : )
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If I needed immediate low cost defensive weapon I'd be happy with an H&RJG said:Keltec, Taurus, or old beat up semi-auto or wheel gun.
You need a low cost, reliable defensive weapon, not a pretty safe queen.