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Actually it's only 33% more capacity, I'll stick with my 1300 Defender
I agree with most of what you're saying. The only things I'd question are the round count and range capabilities.Check your math: 3 is 50% greater than 2. 2 x 1.5 = 3. You might be getting mixed up because 1 is 33% of 3.
As far as a double barrelled shotty for self defense: I actually recommend this setup to people who I know aren't going to train. Untrained people can short stroke pump shotguns under stress, and semi-autos can jam, especially low cost ones that "non-gun" people are likely to buy.
Sure, a double only has two rounds, but the majority of bad guys aren't going to stick around to find out that you're out of ammo after two blasts of buckshot come at them. Doubles, like revolvers, are simple to operate, and even the average "non-gun" person can figure them out.
So they aren't for me, for the reasons mentioned by others, but for they work better than nothing for some. Of course, a shotgun isn't my first choice for SD anyway...AR15 FTW. Lighter, shorter, less recoil, more rounds, longer range... My 870 holds down the rearmost spot in my gunsafe.
I agree with most of what you're saying. The only things I'd question are the round count and range capabilities.
How many projectiles leave the barrel of your AR15 with each trigger press?
How many leave the barrel of a 12 gauge loaded with 00 Buck?
Recoil isn't as big an issue when you're putting nine projectiles on target with each trigger press.
Since we're discussing home defense, what's the longest shot in your home?
I'm going to be the first to say that a shotgun for defensive purposes isn't for everyone. Shooting a shotgun well takes work on the part of the shooter. For those that disagree, I'd recommend taking a class like Homefront Shotgun or Social Shotgun taught by @FirstPersonSafety either class is an eye opener.
Check your math: 3 is 50% greater than 2. 2 x 1.5 = 3. You might be getting mixed up because 1 is 33%
As far as a double barrelled shotty for self defense: I actually recommend this setup to people who I know aren't going to train. Untrained people can short stroke pump shotguns under stress, and semi-autos can jam, especially low cost ones that "non-gun" people are likely to buy.
Sure, a double only has two rounds, but the majority of bad guys aren't going to stick around to find out that you're out of ammo after two blasts of buckshot come at them. Doubles, like revolvers, are simple to operate, and even the average "non-gun" person can figure them out.
So they aren't for me, for the reasons mentioned by others, but for they work better than nothing for some. Of course, a shotgun isn't my first choice for SD anyway...AR15 FTW. Lighter, shorter, less recoil, more rounds, longer range... My 870 holds down the rearmost spot in my gunsafe.
Actually it's only 33% more capacity, I'll stick with my 1300 Defender
Only one round per trigger squeeze, but that round is carrying a lot of energy, and they travel in pairs. Putting eight or nine projectiles in the target with one squeeze is nice, unless you miss and have to deal with the recoil before you send out more.
With the AR I'm 30 rounds away from needing a reload. And let's say it doesn't come to shooting, and I need to hold him at gunpoint until cops arrive. Shoulder a fully loaded shotgun, especially one with an extended mag. See how long you can hold it. All that lead in that mag tube gets heavy..
Plus a non NFA shotgun is longer, so the carbine is easier to manipulate indoors. Add up all of this, and AR's ability to do medium range stuff, and you get to my decision to train for serious things with the AR. For me, it's better to train with one gun for everything.
The hell with all this math BS, I'll just unleash 7 rounds of double aught buck shot, and see if any intruders are still standing!Please tell us all, what is 50 percent of 2?
50%= 1/2,
1/2 of 2 is 1,
2+1=3
so he is correct that you have a 50 percent increase is ammo.
However you are also correct that 1/2 of 3 is 1.5. You have to start with the original number (which is 2) not the answer which is 3 when you are calculating percentage.
I know,I know, freaking math Nazi