What's the next cartridge to be resurrected?

[Hayata]

Make .30 carbine great again!

 

[shovel99]

Regarding the 380 revival: S&W Bodyguard 2.0 is going to build on the 380 momentum and make it very popular. There will be a variety of follow on guns from other makers trying to claim some of the magic.

P.S. Credit for the revitalization should go to Kel Tec P3AT. Ruger LCP was a copy of that gun.

Amen to to Kel Tec P3AT. Only light pocket 380 at the time I bought one. Had to “Fluff and Buff” when you bought it, KT forum description of dehorning and smoothing the rough edges to make it reliable. First time I shot it the recoil was so violent and the cast in grip so sharp that it shredded my hand left bleeding. Put in the box for a year before coming up with a plan to fix it. Installed a Handall Jr and filled the web with a piece of thick tennis racquet grip and made it a great carry. But I was thrilled when Ruger built it to their quality standard.
Once Ruger jumped in a larger numbers started buying them, manufacturers, Hogue started making a custom fit Handall for it that really rocks, softens and spreads recoil, makes it a very useful too. The Max was/is a slick upgrade to the LCP II. With a mag extension that makes it easier to grip and shoot, LCP II holds 7+1. The max inside the same footprint: 10+1. Of course add some weight on 11 rounds. In safer locales, 11 380 monolithic copper for only 15 ounces is my choice over big brother LC9 Pro with 8 at 21.5, or Sig P365 at 11x 9mm at 23.5 ounces for rougher locations. Just my $.02 and Massad Ayoub would not approve.

 

[BHPSteel]

I won't be satisfied until I can walk into a store and buy a box of .577 Martini-Henry whenever I want.

 

[DanKATL]

Make .30 carbine great again!

I remember a recent article about someone releasing an ARish pistol in .30 carbine that took M1 mags

 

[BHPSteel]

This crossed my mind last night when I saw Ruger was following Smith's lead and chambering their LCR snubbie in 32 H&R Magnum.

Over the last few years we've seen 10mm come back from the dead, followed by 5.7, and now some of the older 32 rounds like the H&R Magnum (although that's still a journey in progress).

The all-star here has to be 380, an almost extinct cartridge until the Ruger LCP single-handedly made it popular again back in 2008.

Any thoughts on what the next old round to see a revival will be, or is that well run dry?

I think the only real appetite for 32 H&R Mag is because you can shoot it from a 327 Fed Magnum - so you can have the toned-down equivalent of the 38/357.

 

[spencer60]

On the rifle rounds mentioned I'd love to know why you think they should come back and what would trigger it.

I'm a little familiar with 35 Rem but only because I have an old Model 8.

 

[spencer60]

I think the only real appetite for 32 H&R Mag is because you can shoot it from a 327 Fed Magnum - so you can have the toned-down equivalent of the 38/357.

I did a review here on my J Frame in 32 H&R, and while a gun chambered in 327 Fed Mag is a cool, there's a couple of reasons Smith and Ruger both decided to skip the higher-pressure 327 and stick with the 32 H&R.

 

[spencer60]

Make .30 carbine great again!

Agreed! Not sure what would drive it though. Maybe some PCCs chambered in it?

 

[shovel99]

Technically, yes. The Kel Tec was the OG of that style gun. But it had been around for 5 years before the LCP without driving 380 sales. People probably bought less 380 for those than for PPKs.

When Ruger came out with the LCP you suddenly couldn't find 380 on the shelves. Manufacturers sat up and took notice and started coning out with really good SD loads in it, along with the traditional FMJ that was pretty much all you could find before that.

And with all that new SD ammo came a slew or gun writers saying that 380 was now 'acceptable' for self defense, which drove more gun sales in that caliber, sold more ammo, etc. etc. etc.

I mostly agree. Since Kel Tec was first and a small company, there was no perceived demand for 380 ammo, and the gun and self defense community thoroughly dispatched anyone who would even consider a 380 for defense as an idiot. Indeed it was when Ruger put its huge footprint in producing the guns that the ammo makers considered it enough of a market to develop useful ammo, and both range and SD rounds began appearing on the shelves. Retired Cops number a great percentage of the writers, and if you are out there dealing with BG's every day, you are generally not willing to carry a 380. But if you are the rest of us with a small small % of probability of having an encounter and needing it, we weigh the utility of 10-12 rounds of copper fluted 380 loaded at 15 ounces (only thing I would use) vs 10 of 9mm at 24 ounces, 60% heavier.
I have my safe area carry LCP Max and not safe area carry LC9 Pro or P365. Just my $.02

 

[DanKATL]

Make .30 carbine great again!

I remember a recent article about someone releasing an ARish pistol in .30 carbine that took M1 mags

Agreed! Not sure what would drive it though. Maybe some PCCs chambered in it?

Here you go, looks to be an Inland / Hi-Point project:

Hi-Point M30C M30 Pistol 30CAR Adjustable M4 Buttstock

Hi-Point ILMM30C: The Inland M30-C carbine features a 16.25" threaded barrel with bridcage flash hider. It utilizes a Picatinny rear sight adapter, push button safety, round bolt, and Inland/Sage EBR chassis system. The M30-C is also fitted with an Ergo Suregrip and Ergo MSR stock assembly.

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ILM M30C M30 PISTOL 30CAR ADJ M4 BUTTSTOCK

Inland Mfg ILMM30C M30-C AR Pistol Semi-Automatic 30 Carbine 16.25" 10+1 Polymer Black

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