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whats your choice?

Nah, for me it is about penetration. I had rather have a round go 3 or 4 inches deeper than a round open up a few millimeters.
45 yes i can see but a fast moving 9mm through and through little wound cavity and kinetic energy deposit dont you think. ?

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Federal HST or Speer Gold Dot.

caliber??


For both my carry calibers: .40s&w & .9mm


Also, have tried the Hydrashock by federal in .40 and those are pretty sweet. Recoil was less than target loads.
 
Heart, through to the spine, or the head. Nothing else is guaranteed no matter the size of the hole (within reason).

so in a fast reaction tense situation having to use your weapon your going to get direct hits to the heart, head ,spine? yes its possible but most of the time its going to be center mass shots and then kinetics plays a big part a 44mag in the 6" area AROUND the heart would be fatal from the shock wave. not to say your not a great shot and cool under pressure just throwing out some variables for any situation
 
so in a fast reaction tense situation having to use your weapon your going to get direct hits to the heart, head ,spine? yes its possible but most of the time its going to be center mass shots and then kinetics plays a big part a 44mag in the 6" area AROUND the heart would be fatal from the shock wave. not to say your not a great shot and cool under pressure just throwing out some variables for any situation

Nah, I am old and slow. Chances are I am going to be shot in a fire fight and I know it. I just really hate to lose. So I got that going for me. :thumb:

 
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and bypass please dont get me wrong im not disputing the fact that fmj will do the trick im just trying to figure out should i buy into the hype of the whole jhp/and proclaimed self defense rounds or is my range ammo gonna do it for me, $$ is a big factor as well 20rd box of the hornadys is around $23-25 and i could get near 100 rounds fmj so im not arguing with you im trying to get some more option
 
and bypass please dont get me wrong im not disputing the fact that fmj will do the trick im just trying to figure out should i buy into the hype of the whole jhp/and proclaimed self defense rounds or is my range ammo gonna do it for me, $$ is a big factor as well 20rd box of the hornadys is around $23-25 and i could get near 100 rounds fmj so im not arguing with you im trying to get some more option


Same here brother....reason why I'm only able to try out a defense round once in a blue moon!
 
and bypass please dont get me wrong im not disputing the fact that fmj will do the trick im just trying to figure out should i buy into the hype of the whole jhp/and proclaimed self defense rounds or is my range ammo gonna do it for me, $$ is a big factor as well 20rd box of the hornadys is around $23-25 and i could get near 100 rounds fmj so im not arguing with you im trying to get some more option

Nah. bro I don't think we are even close to arguing. Just offering advice and a different view point. Its' all good. :thumb:
 
Winchester Ranger SXT in 9mm or .45. Or Golden Sabre in the same calibers. I carry them all. Oh, and one mag full of 9mm Black talons.....just in case
 
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