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Which upper ? PSA, BCA, or Ceratac

stay the hell away from BCA. for budget i'd say PSA. better than that i'd say odt or gunbroker used. i bought a used 6920 upper on there for 350 with bcg and charging handle by just being patient. personally if i were buying a new upper i'd spring the extra cash and get a BCM
 
stay the hell away from BCA. for budget i'd say PSA. better than that i'd say odt or gunbroker used. i bought a used 6920 upper on there for 350 with bcg and charging handle by just being patient. personally if i were buying a new upper i'd spring the extra cash and get a BCM
You are so right about being patient.....works most of the time. That was a great effin deal you got on that 6920. I got a Bootleg upper on ODT for a steal too. Still debating on budget or semi-premium.
 
I've never had any issues with getting support from PSA, now it's not Amazon quality CS but it's better than average. I've had them give me a full refund, including shipping both ways, on one of their gen 2 PSA47s simply because I read concerning reports about bolt wear had come up on AK files. They assured me that it was fine and any issues would be covered by the lifetime warranty, but also said they would refund me in full if that's what I wanted. I sent the rifle back on their dime and had my refund a week later.

How do you guarantee all rifles from a certain manufacturer will be good? You can't, but objective testing shows that PSA rifles hold up and rifles from other highly regarded companies fail under pressure.


From my experience, from the time PSA has been offering receivers, I’ve seen more issues than I would rate as “acceptable”. I’ve seen worse companies, but PSA doesn’t make anything that I would bet my life on out of the box. I can name a lot of companies whose products I would bet on, however.

Their QS is such a joke that they can’t even guarantee that their barrels are concentric. Companies like Sionics, SOLGW , etc., do guarantee this.
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I can name several companies whose products I’ve never seen an issue from. A few more dollars in that direction seems a no-brainer to me. Folks going cheap on AR’s and AR parts boggles my mind. I’ve bought BCM uppers on sale, with port cover and FA, for $99. Deals are out there......one doesn’t have to buy crap to save a buck.

Companies like SOLGW are so sure of their products that they warranty every single part of their guns for lifetime......even the parts that are designed to wear out. Gas rings, springs, the barrel, etc. Doesn’t matter; if you wear it out, SOLGW will replace it. That’s literally the last AR you’ll ever need to buy.

Of course, the average AR owner shoots 150 rounds per year. It is because of this that so many folks can honestly say, “I’ve had a PSA/Radical/BCA for 5 years and I’ve never had a problem”.
 
Their QS is such a joke that they can’t even guarantee that their barrels are concentric. Companies like Sionics, SOLGW , etc., do guarantee this.

I don't think their QS is a joke because they don't guarantee their barrels concentricity to the bore.

A good friend of mine will thread the barrel of your rifle for you for low cost if you just want a flash hider. He chucks it up in a 3 jaw chuck, turns it to diameter, and single points the threads. There is no guarantee of concentricity, at least not for suppressor use.

However, he charges considerably more if you want to run a suppressor, as he has to indicate in the barrel on his lathe with a 4 jaw chuck. In that case, he'll get the threads concentric with the lands, at least as well as you can with any threaded connection, but it takes a lot more time.

Palmetto State chooses to be the low cost provider, which means less time for that barrel on the lathe. It doesn't mean they are low quality; it means they are a lower grade; i.e., they don't expect concentricity from their barrels, and they were honest enough with you to tell you that.
 
I don't think their QS is a joke because they don't guarantee their barrels concentricity to the bore.

A good friend of mine will thread the barrel of your rifle for you for low cost if you just want a flash hider. He chucks it up in a 3 jaw chuck, turns it to diameter, and single points the threads. There is no guarantee of concentricity, at least not for suppressor use.

However, he charges considerably more if you want to run a suppressor, as he has to indicate in the barrel on his lathe with a 4 jaw chuck. In that case, he'll get the threads concentric with the lands, at least as well as you can with any threaded connection, but it takes a lot more time.

Palmetto State chooses to be the low cost provider, which means less time for that barrel on the lathe. It doesn't mean they are low quality; it means they are a lower grade; i.e., they don't expect concentricity from their barrels, and they were honest enough with you to tell you that.
That's pretty ****ty business practice. It is low cost and it is low quality. No telling where that barrel will end up and what info gets passed to the buyer. And who/what could possibly be damaged down the road.
 
I don't think their QS is a joke because they don't guarantee their barrels concentricity to the bore.

A good friend of mine will thread the barrel of your rifle for you for low cost if you just want a flash hider. He chucks it up in a 3 jaw chuck, turns it to diameter, and single points the threads. There is no guarantee of concentricity, at least not for suppressor use.

However, he charges considerably more if you want to run a suppressor, as he has to indicate in the barrel on his lathe with a 4 jaw chuck. In that case, he'll get the threads concentric with the lands, at least as well as you can with any threaded connection, but it takes a lot more time.

Palmetto State chooses to be the low cost provider, which means less time for that barrel on the lathe. It doesn't mean they are low quality; it means they are a lower grade; i.e., they don't expect concentricity from their barrels, and they were honest enough with you to tell you that.

It means both; they are low cost BECAUSE they are low quality. They go hand-in-hand. If you can’t put a bore in the center of a barrel, where else are you cutting corners?

Having the bore off-center can effect accuracy to a great degree as the barrel warms up. I don’t understand how someone can be okay with that lack of quality.
 
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