How much are they going to pay me to go?
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Would you train with this company?
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- apparently included carrying an unloaded pistol in your pocket (?) while carrying the mags for said pistol in an OWB holster?
If I'm going to pay a lot of money for professional training I'd like to go to Thunder Ranch, Gunsite or Ron Averys school. I dont need the uber tactical type training. I'm not a believer in training at near 100% of your ability. Too many things go wrong. Its like when you take your bike to the track for a track day and people think they are racing in MotoGP. Usually they end up hurting themselves.
OK...first things first. It's really easy to bag on them because of the attitude and all the other stuff. But let's take it on face value. Ignore the personalities and the braggadocio and the brouhaha. Watch the video and answer the question. I'll wait.
Done? OK, well the answer for me is a good ole country "hail no-wuh!" Let's go down the list:
- Within the first seven seconds, multiple people have been flagged with loaded handguns
- "Truly advanced?" A) What does that even mean? B) Does it mean one hand operation of the slide of your handgun...if so, I'm pretty sure that was being done....well.....ever since autoloading pistols where created; so what's "truly advanced" about that?
- "Cutting Edge" and "Proven Tactics" apparently included carrying an unloaded pistol in your pocket (?) while carrying the mags for said pistol in an OWB holster?
- @ 00:25 -- Did he just? Oh wow...yeah, he did. OK, so safety concerns aside (enormous as they may be), what self defense scenario EVER plays out with you on top delivering a double tap to the face? Seriously? The palm strike routine was understandable if not a little comical, but is this outfit really teaching double taps to the face?
- @00:27 -- Um, apparently getting hit in the back of the head with boxing gloves by your instructor while firing your pistol is "Master Level Skill." How that helps in the real world, I suppose I'm just not operator enough to know.
- And I guess the end of it is supposed to be some sort of IFAK test....couldn't tell exactly what was happening.
Look, I only mention this because people say all the time "You know, ole James is a good guy once you get to know him and they teach really good stuff. You just have to get past the 'internet' stuff." This video is nothing but video of a course they taught. No spin, no "I'm gonna start shooting people" rhetoric, no nothing...just their curriculum in motion. And it only took thirty eight seconds to save me four thousand dollars...you know, if I was going with a friend...and my Sightmark.
Anyone worth shooting once is worth shooting twice.
I've been to Gunsite and hope to go back. Would like to visit Ron Avery. They ain't cheap tho, that's fo sho.
this is the GWTS&FS right?
the Gorge Wick Tactical Shootin & Fighting School. he is John's cousin.
plumber thru the week,badd A@@ on the weekend.
class two is turning your head and open hand windmill slapping at your attacker.
all bashing aside, i dont think i would want to meet up with any of them in a dark alley.... they might try and touch my willy..
CAUSE THIS CRAP IS GAYYYYYYY!!!!
the Gorge Wick Tactical Shootin & Fighting School. he is John's cousin.
plumber thru the week,badd A@@ on the weekend.
class two is turning your head and open hand windmill slapping at your attacker.
all bashing aside, i dont think i would want to meet up with any of them in a dark alley.... they might try and touch my willy..
CAUSE THIS CRAP IS GAYYYYYYY!!!!
Potentially...but what if your off hand goes down, and now you put the pistol in your dominant pocket and can't reach your mags on your off-hand side? "Hey, man. Stick your pistol in your pocket to reload it if your hand gets blowed up." isn't really what I would call "cutting edge" training.
Quoted for truth.Anyone worth shooting once is worth shooting twice.
But, yeah, I'll pass on that course. Do you have any idea how many Sightmark RDS's I can buy with 4 grand?
The answer is "All the Sightmarks"...
The thumbnail in question has been explained by @righter13, someone who I trust and have respect for his experience. While I maintain that the drill is highly dangerous, I also understand that it is not reckless. See link below for explanation.
https://www.theoutdoorstrader.com/t...with-this-company.1404099/page-5#post-7043481
