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    Please help identify this old German pistol

    https://oldmanmontgomery.wordpress.com/2014/05/30/the-ortgies-patent-deutsche-werke-pistol/ Thanks.
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    Please help identify this old German pistol

    I think it's a .380, but I honestly have no clue. I don't believe the grips are original... thank you for looking.
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