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[shells]

Item Name: FS Kahr K9 - Single Stack 9mm, Excellent Condition, Perfect for Carry, Great Ergonomics

Location: Brookhaven, GA

Zip Code: 30329

Item is for: Sale Only
Sale Price: 375

Caliber: 9mm

Willing to Ship: No

Bill of Sale Required?: Yes

Billing Information: Georgia Weapons License (carry permit) number

Item Description: I'm selling a Kahr K9.
Features:

• It's a compact, single-stack 9mm
• 7+1 capacity, 4 magazines included
• Perfect for carry
• Its grip is made of a rubber that's particularly pleasant to hold
• Sights are a quick-acquisition design.
• Feels great to shoot, extremely manageable even with +P ammo.
• The trigger is perfect for a defensive gun, long enough to not risk an unintended discharge but *buttery smooth* and a perfect weight of about 5.5 pounds.

Condition:

This gun is in perfect mechanical shape, it has only around 1000 rounds through it and works perfectly. It is in great cosmetic shape, it shows only slight handling and holster wear. No damage and no significant scratches or dings. I'm selling it simply because I no longer carry it.

What's Included:

• The gun
• Original box and manuals
• Four magazines
• Two nylon holsters, one that accommodates an additional mag and one that doesn't

Price and Buying Requirements:

• I will entertain all offers but am asking $375
• You *must* have a valid Georgia Weapons License (aka GWL aka concealed carry permit). No exceptions.
• You must allow me to complete a bill of sale containing our permit IDs. You are entitled to a copy of the BOS if you want one. No exceptions.
• I can meet you in the metro Atlanta area and am very flexible on time and location. Public, reputable places only.

Feel free to PM me or post with any questions or comments! Thanks!

Pictures:

 

[kb34]

You might be hard pressed to get someone to let you take down their address and personal info...

 

[shells]

You might be hard pressed to get someone to let you take down their address and personal info...

The only information I really need is a permit number, and the only reason I'm particular about getting that is because if the gun ends up somewhere it shouldn't be down the road, I want to be able to prove that I did my due diligence. In my dealings I've had several people tell me they're not a fan of my approach, but have also had plenty of people who couldn't care less.

It seems to me like there's a lot of theorizing on this point without any substantiation. Some folks theorize that a bill of sale offers "no protection" - but law enforcement does sometimes investigate how a gun was transferred, and I know the conversation will go more smoothly if I can prove I did a legal transfer. Others, like yourself, theorize that if you put your info on a bill of sale, it will somehow used in nefarious ways. I can't imagine how that would happen, nor have I ever heard of such a thing occurring.

I'm open to evidence-based arguments, but to each their own. If you're not comfortable exchanging permit IDs then we won't be making a deal.

 

[CSquared]

My first pistol when I turned 21 was a stainless version of this. If I had a carry permit, I'D buy this.

 

[NEJ-ESQ]

The only information I really need is a permit number, and the only reason I'm particular about getting that is because if the gun ends up somewhere it shouldn't be down the road, I want to be able to prove that I did my due diligence. In my dealings I've had several people tell me they're not a fan of my approach, but have also had plenty of people who couldn't care less.

It seems to me like there's a lot of theorizing on this point without any substantiation. Some folks theorize that a bill of sale offers "no protection" - but law enforcement does sometimes investigate how a gun was transferred, and I know the conversation will go more smoothly if I can prove I did a legal transfer. Others, like yourself, theorize that if you put your info on a bill of sale, it will somehow used in nefarious ways. I can't imagine how that would happen, nor have I ever heard of such a thing occurring.

I'm open to evidence-based arguments, but to each their own. If you're not comfortable exchanging permit IDs then we won't be making a deal.

Just as a quick aside from a criminal defense attorney, while "I know the conversation will go more smoothly if I can prove I did a legal transfer" is not an necessarily an invalid argument, I would STRONGLY recommend that if law enforcement seeks to speak with you regarding the transfer of a firearm that you politely decline to do so until you can have your lawyer present. Whether or not a bill of sale offers any actual protection within the state of Georgia is certainly open for debate, but that isn't a debate that you should lose at the hands of investigating officers. My free legal advice (and you do get what you pay for, lol) is that anyone on this site should make friends with a defense attorney (or just go meet with one if you can't stomach having a beer with a blood sucking lawyer) so you'll know who to call if something comes up.

BTW- I had the .40 cal version of this and she ran like a charm. If I had the spare change right now I wouldn't hesitate to pick this up. Kahrs are the most under-priced firearms on the resale market and everyone should own at least one. GLWS

 

[shells]

I would STRONGLY recommend that if law enforcement seeks to speak with you regarding the transfer of a firearm that you politely decline to do so until you can have your lawyer present.

I'm totally onboard with that and would never have a conversation with law enforcement without my lawyer. But regardless of the circumstances of that conversation, it can't go more smoothly without a BoS than with.

 

[NEJ-ESQ]

I'm totally onboard with that and would never have a conversation with law enforcement without my lawyer. But regardless of the circumstances of that conversation, it can't go more smoothly without a BoS than with.

Well...it actually could. What all is in your Bill of Sale? Is it strictly a receipt? Does it have any verification of a purchaser's right to own that firearm? Does it ask about criminal history, whether there has been an involuntary commitment, whether a person is on probation? Is their intent to use this firearm non-malicious in nature? Are they the actual purchaser? Are they intoxicated/on drugs/addicted to medications? Are they currently under investigation for a violent offense?

Obviously those questions aren't on there, right? (And they aren't required to be and shouldn't be, don't get me wrong) So the purchaser of the firearm that you have the receipt for that does have all the basic identifying info goes on a killing spree. Or just kills his wife that has a TPO against him. Or was actually buying the gun for some gang member who was involved in a shootout. Now it's a big news story and folks want blood, especially the blood of the person who sold him the gun. And you had a bill of sale that left out THE important question that you should have asked (not that your were EVER required to) and it is obvious (to the public and possibly the right prosecutor) that you left that question out ON PURPOSE because you knew the buyer couldn't buy the gun legally but you just wanted to get paid for selling a killing machine. Now there are civil suits against you, and possibly a criminal case, because you left out something that you never needed in the first place on a document that you aren't required to have under state law.

Ok, same scenario, but without the bill of sale- you asked if he was a resident of Georgia and asked to see his carry permit. He stated that he was and showed you his permit and you were reasonable in your belief that he was telling the truth so you sold him the gun. You asked ONLY what you absolutely had to get from him and nothing more. You weren't attempting to emulate what an FFL dealer is required to get and there isn't a writing that can be used against you later, so there isn't an argument that you assumed additional responsibility for the verification of the sale being legal. Legal action is less likely to occur (especially if you've followed the rule of not speaking without a lawyer).

Is this likely to happen? Probably not. Can it happen? Absolutely. I'm not saying don't get a bill of sale if that's what makes you happy, and if someone doesn't want to fill one out then that's their problem, not yours. All I'm saying is there are scenarios where it may not be as clear cut as receipt=get out of jail free, so be careful in how you proceed.

 

[shells]

The BoS I use actually has all of those questions except for the intent of use question. I personally think the question I'm most likely to be asked is whether I had reason to think the person was a prohibited person. If I have his permit ID number and his signature saying he's eligible, I can prove that I had every reason to think he was eligible. Of course I would let my lawyer make the decisions as to how to use the info on the BoS, or not.

 

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[hawkeye1968]

Item Name: FS Kahr K9 - Single Stack 9mm, Excellent Condition, Perfect for Carry, Great Ergonomics

Location: Brookhaven, GA

Zip Code: 30329

Item is for: Sale Only
Sale Price: 375

Caliber: 9mm

Willing to Ship: No

Bill of Sale Required?: Yes

Billing Information: Georgia Weapons License (carry permit) number

Item Description: I'm selling a Kahr K9.
Features:

• It's a compact, single-stack 9mm
• 7+1 capacity, 4 magazines included
• Perfect for carry
• Its grip is made of a rubber that's particularly pleasant to hold
• Sights are a quick-acquisition design.
• Feels great to shoot, extremely manageable even with +P ammo.
• The trigger is perfect for a defensive gun, long enough to not risk an unintended discharge but *buttery smooth* and a perfect weight of about 5.5 pounds.

Condition:

This gun is in perfect mechanical shape, it has only around 1000 rounds through it and works perfectly. It is in great cosmetic shape, it shows only slight handling and holster wear. No damage and no significant scratches or dings. I'm selling it simply because I no longer carry it.

What's Included:

• The gun
• Original box and manuals
• Four magazines
• Two nylon holsters, one that accommodates an additional mag and one that doesn't

Price and Buying Requirements:

• I will entertain all offers but am asking $375
• You *must* have a valid Georgia Weapons License (aka GWL aka concealed carry permit). No exceptions.
• You must allow me to complete a bill of sale containing our permit IDs. You are entitled to a copy of the BOS if you want one. No exceptions.
• I can meet you in the metro Atlanta area and am very flexible on time and location. Public, reputable places only.

Feel free to PM me or post with any questions or comments! Thanks!

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I would be interested in this if you still have it.
I do have a CCW permit, am an NRA Instructor.