Just because you're new to outdoor Trader does not mean that you are new to firearms, firearm safety, nor are you a criminal just means you had to do the same thing we have all had to do and start somewhere! I'm glad I was able to help roscoe_p not only defend himself but his family if needed, on top of that at a great price obviously we both thought so !! Would do business again, main message is just do not ignore new ODT members because they just started a profile,you are a human and can read people ask questions and move them from the new to advanced status only we can!!!!