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[medium187mph]

I am sure I don’t have over 20k rounds in my lifetime shooting but...

I can shoot a Glock ANY caliber consistently with what trigger time I do have.

I’ve also given several types of pistols the benefit of the doubt and tried a ton (CZ, Sig, SW, HK, SA, Ruger) (revolvers, DA/SA, Striker, SA Hammer)

For some reason I keep going back to a Glock 19 based on consistent trigger/recoil and weight/round count/concealing ability.

Don’t get me wrong, I love a 1911 and CZ but the Koolaide is what I’ve mastered and feel most comfortable keeping on hand at the ready.

 

[cmshoot]

I am sure I don’t have over 20k rounds in my lifetime shooting but...

I can shoot a Glock ANY caliber consistently with what trigger time I do have.

I’ve also given several types of pistols the benefit of the doubt and tried a ton (CZ, Sig, SW, HK, SA, Ruger) (revolvers, DA/SA, Striker, SA Hammer)

For some reason I keep going back to a Glock 19 based on consistent trigger/recoil and weight/round count/concealing ability.

Don’t get me wrong, I love a 1911 and CZ but the Koolaide is what I’ve mastered and feel most comfortable keeping on hand at the ready.

The G19 is hard to beat as an all-around duty/CCW handgun. For my agency, the G19 or a similar sized striker-fired handgun would be the best choice for an issued weapon, IMO.

 

[paliknight]

The G19 is hard to beat as an all-around duty/CCW handgun. For my agency, the G19 or a similar sized striker-fired handgun would be the best choice for an issued weapon, IMO.

Are you allowed to say what agency? I was under the impression only Secret Service still used P229s (or 226).

 

[cmshoot]

The 1911 handgun is not as easy a firearm to run as say the Glock, or any other non-safetied striker-fired handgun. The SFH’s are almost the closest you’d get to a DA revolver in a semi-auto pistol, except for maybe a true DAO. No manual safeties, pull the trigger, stop pulling the trigger, put more ammo in it. Overall, very simple and easy to operate, which is one of the beauties of the design.

Make no mistake, price point is a huge selling point of the Glock. I’ve never paid over $400 for a base model Glock. A 1911 that I would trust as well costs well over twice as much. You can’t compare manufacturing cost of a molded plastic part to a CNC-machined steel part.

Every time that HK comes out with a Glock competitor, what is everyone’s complaint? “It’s too expensive!” The HK SFH’s cost over $100 more than a Glock, similarly equipped. By similarly equipped, I mean with steel sights. Polymer sights are an abomination that have no place on a fighting handgun. Raise the G19 price to the same price as the HK VP9 and suddenly it wouldn’t be quite as a popular.

I’m not bashing the Glock series, merely pointing out some things. If you blindly follow a particular handgun brand/design and think it’s the tits without also knowing what it’s weak points are, you’re doing yourself a disservice. Every pistol out there has it’s pros and cons and you should know both sides.

 

[MRH]

The 1911 handgun is not as easy a firearm to run as say the Glock, or any other non-safetied striker-fired handgun. The SFH’s are almost the closest you’d get to a DA revolver in a semi-auto pistol, except for maybe a true DAO. No manual safeties, pull the trigger, stop pulling the trigger, put more ammo in it. Overall, very simple and easy to operate, which is one of the beauties of the design.

Make no mistake, price point is a huge selling point of the Glock. I’ve never paid over $400 for a base model Glock. A 1911 that I would trust as well costs well over twice as much. You can’t compare manufacturing cost of a molded plastic part to a CNC-machined steel part.

Every time that HK comes out with a Glock competitor, what is everyone’s complaint? “It’s too expensive!” The HK SFH’s cost over $100 more than a Glock, similarly equipped. By similarly equipped, I mean with steel sights. Polymer sights are an abomination that have no place on a fighting handgun. Raise the G19 price to the same price as the HK VP9 and suddenly it wouldn’t be quite as a popular.

I’m not bashing the Glock series, merely pointing out some things. If you blindly follow a particular handgun brand/design and think it’s the tits without also knowing what it’s weak points are, you’re doing yourself a disservice. Every pistol out there has it’s pros and cons and you should know both sides.

I shoot a 1911 probably better than any other pistol, which isn't saying much, and I would have no problem carrying one cocked and locked, but it all comes down to experience and training, and I would have to train myself to instinctively hit the safety without thinking. My old deer rifle is a good example. When I see deer movement, my immediate first reaction is to hit the safety to fire position, without giving it a thought. That old rifle is what I know. I'm the same way with an AK. The safety is something that I have engrained into my subconscious because I've been shooting AK's for 25 years...Now that I've been shooting AR's a lot over the past couple years, I'm really liking the controls and their placement. All because they are becoming more and more familiar. I still have to think on it a little sometimes, but its getting there.

I wish I had the time and resources to shoot as much as I want. I would really like to be better practiced with the SA/DA guns.

 

[MRH]

Are you allowed to say what agency? I was under the impression only Secret Service still used P229s (or 226).

According to Wikipedia:
"The newer SIG Sauer P229 in .357 SIG has been adopted for use by agents and officers of the following national and state law enforcement organizations (LEO): United States Secret Service. Federal Air Marshals. Bureau of Industry and Security."

For some reason I thought the dept of energy carried them as well, but I could be wrong.

Quite a few LE agencies carry the .357 Sig round, but I don't know which ones carry the P229.

 

[cmshoot]

Are you allowed to say what agency? I was under the impression only Secret Service still used P229s (or 226).

FAMS

 

[Cadcom]

Some folks don’t have an issue with a DA/SA. Some folks do. It’s like any other manual skill.

While I use a DA/SA quite well, I would rather see my agency go to a striker-fired handgun. Why? It’s easier for a someone that isn’t a regular shooter to shoot well with. I’m on my 5th gun while most of the folks I got hired on with are on their 1st or 2nd. So, while I don’t have a problem with the DA/SA, I have to remember that the person backing me up may have an issue with it. Also keep in mind that I’ve never paid for .357SIG ammo to train with.

A good shooter is going to shoot well no matter what firearm they are issued. It makes sense to issue a handgun that the non-shooters shoot well with, as long as that handgun is a solid, reliable model.

For me personally, I’d be just fine carrying the P229 .357SIG until I retire. However, as a whole, it would be better for my agency as a whole if we went to a striker-fired 9mm.

Good point. My first "assault pistol", other than a 1911 or revolver, was a 3rd gen Smith and Wesson 6904 DA/SA. I loved the mag capacity and the ease of use. I owned several different flavors of 3rd gen Smiths and then moved into SIG P series as well as Ruger and then HK DA/SA pistols. That style of pistol is what I cut my teef on and I can shoot them easily. No doubt it is easier to hand someone a striker fired weapon and have them banging away quickly and maybe effectively. I can still pick up a 1911 and wipe the safety without any thought as I bring it up to fire. I enjoy those platforms and being proficient with each one is part of what I enjoy about shooting them.

 

[cmshoot]

Wow check out this throwback... a S&W true DAO semi-auto.

I love 3rd Gen S&W’s, but DAO’s are my least favorite type of semi-auto trigger. The DAO Smiths were the best ones, though.

 

[MaconGuns]

I have 2 sig p250s and love the trigger.
I may even buy another if I can find it cheap.

The survey looks pretty even across the board.