So the reality of it is, if u don't enjoy shooting a 1911, a $5000 WC or a $400 RIA isn't going to make a difference for u. It's just simply the 1911 platform in it's entirety u don't like.
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1911 Dilemma
- Thread starter Bcperrysr
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I think you are so use to the Crock that any gun is going to feel strange. I f you haven't been shooting for years on one platform it would feel natural. They are two different animals. The Garrison is a entry level gun but I am not sure a better model would have made a difference. I haven't shot the Crocks a lot and I dislike the way they feel.
Same theory can be explained in my golf game. I grew up playing with forged blade clubs. Got decent with them. Fast forward 10 years and me and my buddies got serious about the game. So I went and go a set of top of the line cavity back Calloways. We played for 6 months but the clubs didn't feel right and I couldn't break 90. So I went out and bought a set of Mizuno MP-33 blades. The night before I bet my golf buddy 5 bucks a hole I would play better. He jumped all over that and was blowing hard and sat eating it up.
Next day first tee and he is still kicking. Now remember I hadn't broke 90 with those fat cavity backs. Well to shorten the story I beat him every hole and shot a 80 and never looked back. Oh my word was he pissed off. He just rolled up the money and put it under the score card clip on the 13th hole. LOL
Moral of the story: what you learn and use long periods of time the body will just bend to. Nothing will feel right until you are using what your body has retained muscle memory with. I am a sure if you take one out and shoot it on a regular basis you will appreciate more. Also shooting 45 is not going to be as comfortable as a 9mm either. Big difference in feel right there and that is something you have to get use to.
Same theory can be explained in my golf game. I grew up playing with forged blade clubs. Got decent with them. Fast forward 10 years and me and my buddies got serious about the game. So I went and go a set of top of the line cavity back Calloways. We played for 6 months but the clubs didn't feel right and I couldn't break 90. So I went out and bought a set of Mizuno MP-33 blades. The night before I bet my golf buddy 5 bucks a hole I would play better. He jumped all over that and was blowing hard and sat eating it up.
Next day first tee and he is still kicking. Now remember I hadn't broke 90 with those fat cavity backs. Well to shorten the story I beat him every hole and shot a 80 and never looked back. Oh my word was he pissed off. He just rolled up the money and put it under the score card clip on the 13th hole. LOL
Moral of the story: what you learn and use long periods of time the body will just bend to. Nothing will feel right until you are using what your body has retained muscle memory with. I am a sure if you take one out and shoot it on a regular basis you will appreciate more. Also shooting 45 is not going to be as comfortable as a 9mm either. Big difference in feel right there and that is something you have to get use to.
Just like anything else, usually the better the gear the better the experience. Chances are the gun you shot was the lowest end gun that will reasonably function on a rental wall. I'm a 1911 and 2011 guy and I'll tell you that a bone stock low end gun is not a gun that will set your world on fire. What makes a 1911 style gun is all what separates it from everything else, 90% trigger. A loose gun with a poor trigger is akin to taking your sister to prom. Find a place that rents or make a friend with a sig or a Dan Wesson and try again. I think you'll be pleasantly surprised.
The Springfield loaded A-1 has a awesome trigger. No comparison with the
Garrison. That's a sweet shooting 1911 ( Loaded A-1 ) out the box. It has all the trimmings.
Each story is so different with each person. In my case, my outlook on shooting and I guess guns in general changed on the day around 20 years ago when I was at the range with my army Captain son in law to be, and he handed me his S&W 1911. All of the sudden I was a good shot! Since then I have tried 100 or so different handguns and nothing non-optic stays on target like my 1911's. I am not by any means a big time shooter, but that is how it's been for me.
Same here. Nothing fits my hand like a 1911, been in love with them since the first one I shot in the mid-60s.
What makes you say the Garrison is a "entry level" gun and what does a "Loaded" have that the Garrison doesn't that makes it so much better?
The major difference between the Garrison and the Loaded are,
- Garrison has a GI style recoil system and the Loaded has a full length (which most people swap out with a GI style)
- Garrison lacks ambi safety although is setup for it. Loaded has an ambi safety (which most people swap out with a non ambi)
- Garrison is Blued vs Park on the Loaded. Blued is a much nicer much higher-end finish.
- Garrison lacks forward slide serrations and instead has classic slim slanted on the rear (another big plus for the Garrison)
- Garrison has slimline grips, loaded has standard (another plus for the Garrison)
They have the same barrel, sights, trigger, hammer, etc.
From where I am standing, the Garrison is a better gun that the old Loaded everyday of the week and twice on Sunday.
I thought the Loaded had a little better trigger of the two I compared. Also the one Loaded I handled had G10 grips and they may have been thin profile. I really didn't take the time to identify each difference. Could have been the grips that made it feel different.
I am a PT1911 fan not for what it is but what it can be. A good work over with Wilson Combat parts and a little stoning here and there and you have a freaking nice weapon. Not camparing the two just pointing out what s good work over can do for a gun.
Sort of like my Remington R1 Long slide 10mm. Hated it out of the box and needed work. After about 500 dollars of Wilson parts and another 100 ,from Brownells and you couldn't pry that gun out my hands with a team of mules.
I wasn't knocking the Garrison it's a fine gun I just though the Loaded had a few more features. Grips are probably what fooled me. I am partial to Stainless and front slide serrations as well.
I am a PT1911 fan not for what it is but what it can be. A good work over with Wilson Combat parts and a little stoning here and there and you have a freaking nice weapon. Not camparing the two just pointing out what s good work over can do for a gun.
Sort of like my Remington R1 Long slide 10mm. Hated it out of the box and needed work. After about 500 dollars of Wilson parts and another 100 ,from Brownells and you couldn't pry that gun out my hands with a team of mules.
I wasn't knocking the Garrison it's a fine gun I just though the Loaded had a few more features. Grips are probably what fooled me. I am partial to Stainless and front slide serrations as well.
